Hunting pack suggestions

Crap. Half of you guys would have died early deaths had you been born in the 1890's. During the Klondike rush, women, that's right, WOMEN hired themselves out to carry gear across the pass. You were required to have 1000lbs of gear and 3-4 WOMEN would carry it over for you on their backs with a pack board. We're a bunch of pansies today.
Can I carry 300lbs at 51 after 12 years in the Air Force? Nope, but I sure as hell could at 30 having run concrete and masonry for 10 years and then infantry. And I did. No one needs believe it, and I really don't give a rat's ass. Someone asked what the weight was. I told them. I couldn't carry my 175lb ruck now, and carrying that weight heavy earlier, has pretty much wrecked my knees. Didn't say there wasn't a cost. If my packs topped out at 70lbs, the walk better be from the house to the truck, to the canoe, to the shore. I even portage my canoe on wheels. Throw my canoe on the box with 18" bicycle wheels on it, throw my gear in the canoe, and push it along. Easy as pie, but it takes up room so I needed a bigger canoe when the second wife started to travel with me. I like canoeing, less to carry.
 
Ok, you said:

rookie wildcat said:
I'm still running a packboard for heavy loads up to 300lbs (one I made myself with "modern" modifications).
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Littleboylefty asked what your definition of heavy was and you said:

rookie wildcat said:
250-300 lbs of meat quarters,
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I still don't believe you could carry that at 30 for any significant distance, no matter how tough you were. I know some tough, strong SOB's that have packed some serious weight in the mountains on their backs, but nowhere near 300 pounds. Your claim is seriously exaggerated no matter what you say.

rookie wildcat said:
Can I carry 300lbs at 51 after 12 years in the Air Force? Nope, but I sure as hell could at 30 having run concrete and masonry for 10 years and then infantry. And I did. No one needs believe it, and I really don't give a rat's ass. Someone asked what the weight was. I told them. I couldn't carry my 175lb ruck now, and carrying that weight heavy earlier, has pretty much wrecked my knees. Didn't say there wasn't a cost. If my packs topped out at 70lbs, the walk better be from the house to the truck, to the canoe, to the shore. I even portage my canoe on wheels. Throw my canoe on the box with 18" bicycle wheels on it, throw my gear in the canoe, and push it along. Easy as pie, but it takes up room so I needed a bigger canoe when the second wife started to travel with me. I like canoeing, less to carry.
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So you cant carry that weight now as you say, not even your 175 pound ruck that you carried in the forces, so now you are just a weakling human like the rest of us now. I guess that MR pack will work just fine now eh?

You don't have to explain ****** up knees to me, I know all about it...
 
norskie said:
Would really hate to run into the 3 or 4 women that could pack 1000 lbs on pack boards....
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And remember, back then, all travel was uphill, the snow was deeper and the winters colder. ;)
Actually, it was mainly the local natives that did the packing and they were mistreated and not paid, until the NWMP showed up and started cleaning up.............and taxing.
 
rookie wildcat said:
Crap. Half of you guys would have died early deaths had you been born in the 1890's. During the Klondike rush, women, that's right, WOMEN hired themselves out to carry gear across the pass. You were required to have 1000lbs of gear and 3-4 WOMEN would carry it over for you on their backs with a pack board. We're a bunch of pansies today.
Can I carry 300lbs at 51 after 12 years in the Air Force? Nope, but I sure as hell could at 30 having run concrete and masonry for 10 years and then infantry. And I did. No one needs believe it, and I really don't give a rat's ass. Someone asked what the weight was. I told them. I couldn't carry my 175lb ruck now, and carrying that weight heavy earlier, has pretty much wrecked my knees. Didn't say there wasn't a cost. If my packs topped out at 70lbs, the walk better be from the house to the truck, to the canoe, to the shore. I even portage my canoe on wheels. Throw my canoe on the box with 18" bicycle wheels on it, throw my gear in the canoe, and push it along. Easy as pie, but it takes up room so I needed a bigger canoe when the second wife started to travel with me. I like canoeing, less to carry.
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What the hell.....
 
norskie said:
Would really hate to run into the 3 or 4 women that could pack 1000 lbs on pack boards....
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When I worked in northern Manitoba I saw more than one woman competing for the title of Queen Trapper pack over 550 pounds of flour on their backs...mind you only for a short distance. To be in the running for King Trapper you needed to be able to handle well over 800 pounds. And that was only with a headband for support.
 
rookie wildcat said:
Crap. Half of you guys would have died early deaths had you been born in the 1890's. During the Klondike rush, women, that's right, WOMEN hired themselves out to carry gear across the pass. You were required to have 1000lbs of gear and 3-4 WOMEN would carry it over for you on their backs with a pack board. We're a bunch of pansies today.
Can I carry 300lbs at 51 after 12 years in the Air Force? Nope, but I sure as hell could at 30 having run concrete and masonry for 10 years and then infantry. And I did. No one needs believe it, and I really don't give a rat's ass. Someone asked what the weight was. I told them. I couldn't carry my 175lb ruck now, and carrying that weight heavy earlier, has pretty much wrecked my knees. Didn't say there wasn't a cost. If my packs topped out at 70lbs, the walk better be from the house to the truck, to the canoe, to the shore. I even portage my canoe on wheels. Throw my canoe on the box with 18" bicycle wheels on it, throw my gear in the canoe, and push it along. Easy as pie, but it takes up room so I needed a bigger canoe when the second wife started to travel with me. I like canoeing, less to carry.
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for the klondike you dont know what you are talking about it was not 1000 lbs but 1 ton i think this is more 2200 lbs.
http://www.nps.gov/klgo/historyculture/tonofgoods.htm

on the women side there i think they make more money with other duties and all the stories say the same .... and in those days all those poor men were wishing to have all those women to carry or doing other stuff ... it was more 1 woman for 10 men at least ...

the chilkoot is roughly 33 miles and even superman wont carry that much especially on the slopes in includes ...
 
And back onto the topic at hand... Any other hunting pack suggestions I can spend my hard money on.

(I'm looking for something that it will carry itself. Heh!)
 
Stone Glacier, Kifaru, Mystery Ranch, Tasmanian Tiger, Barney Packs are all good rigs to run with. Pricey but built to go the distance. As mentioned, the badlands, Ebelerstock etc are distance seconds when pushing into the mountains.
Your going to be running at least 60 pounds going in, unless your guide is packing a bunch of stuff for you, and you will be a lot heavier coming out if something hits the dirt (or you're making multiple trips).

Whichever one you go with take the time to make it fit properly, especially if you do end up rolling out heavy. This pic is me last year packing out my wife's boned out mtn goat, full hide and half our camp- was just over 150# and 10 km to the lake. Not pleasant but no bruises or abrasions from a bad fit.

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Sadly, nothing short of horses or sherpas will be a "self carrier" :)

Some one mentioned the rokslide forum- it is a good source of info.

FWIW, I've done my fair share of pack in hunts and each year you learn something new about the gear you have and what works and what doesn't. No "system" is the right fit or perfect for everybody.

RC
 
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