Hunting Regulations Can Suck

If the crown land falls within a hunting zone, than I don't think so.
I have never heard of anythig ever being enforced when someone is target shooting. but if you are deep in a hunting zone with rifle, and the season is closed, you are done.

gravel pits, beaches, shoreline is I always wet without trouble.
I would never be caught in moose hunting area with my rifle in mid may !
 
In NB it is illegal to possess a firearm in a "resort of game" during closed season or without a valid hunting licence.That said though,varmint season(crows,yotes,groundhogs etc.) is open year round but there are caliber restrictions.(shotgun,rimfire,muzzleloader,or centerfire with a bore less than .23)
During closed seasons for big game(deer,moose,bear) or after you're tag has been used.....same thing,no rifles larger than .23.
 
Goose25 said:
News flash buddy!!!!!! .... crow hunting is not open year round in Quebec.
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Yikes! I stand corrected!!! Since when? (Not that I hunt crow anymore. Used to as a kid.) They even have a season for starlings, sparrows, etc. I suppose to give all birds a breather during nesting season. My bad!:redface:
 
Comparing bringing a fishing rod along during closed fishing and a gun during closed hunting season isn't very valid. Hunting is only one thing you can do with a firearm, while fishing is pretty much the only thing you can do with a fishing rod.

That is unless of course you also prefer to spend time trying to hook pine cones off the trees as well :p.

I also see it as a huge erosion of rights to prevent shooting on public land that is OUR land with such asinine rules if the shooting is safe, legal, and respectful of the land and others.
 
I still think Environment Canada should declare an all out war on invasive species and make them much like gophers out west, no license required, no bag limit, open year round, across the country ... Common finch and pigeons come to mind (pigeons and groundhogs are the only 2 species open year round here in Quebec, but a small game license is still required).
 
There is nothing year round in Newfoundland.

Bery pickers, fisher people, etc. all complain about the dangers of bullets flying in the woods.

I personally think it would be great to have it so i can just go anywhere in the woods in Newfoundland and shoot, at anytime of year, open or closed season. However, with limitless coastal area and gun ranges and gravel pits, etc. , Open season fron September 8th to July 12 th, I don't mind not going to battle over having the last 2 weeks of July and August.
It's a big Island, but we do share it. I have no problem sticking to the coast and gravel pits and ranges for 7 weeks of the year so that some berry pickers and their kids can feel a bit safer and enjoy the outdoors as I do.
Whether the safety concern is legitimate or not, that;s a different story, but for a few weeks of the year, get out and enjoy what I enjoy 10 months of the year with rifle and the other 2 months with a rod.

Also, in regards to safety. At that time of year, when I know there are thousands more people in the woods then any other time of year, I too feel OK about not shooting in there at that time. I don't feel that for a few weeks of the year Parents should have to be dressing themslves and their kids in Blaze Orange
so they can enjoy a day out in the woods.
 
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In Ontario its not illegal to carry a gun while the seasons are closed. It IS ILLEGAL to carry anything bigger than a .22 rimfire while a big game season IS OPEN, unless you have a valid license for said BIG GAME.

If you're only carrying a rimfire during a big game season, then it is accepted that you are only hunting small game.
 
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blargon said:
In Ontario its not illegal to carry a gun while the seasons are closed. It IS ILLEGAL to carry anything bigger than a .22 rimfire while a big game season IS OPEN, unless you have a valid license for said BIG GAME.

If you're only carrying a rimfire during a big game season, then it is accepted that you are only hunting small game.
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You can pack a shotgun as well, with restrictions on shot size. (basically no buck/slugs)

As for blast till they drop pests - what about the Double-Crested Cormorants? Yay MNR... :rolleyes:
 
MauserMike said:
You can pack a shotgun as well, with restrictions on shot size. (basically no buck/slugs)

As for blast till they drop pests - what about the Double-Crested Cormorants? Yay MNR... :rolleyes:
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Although you can carry a .410 with slugs, as they're not legal for big game anyway.

FWIW the problems we do have are not the regs, but the outfitters and the blocked access up north.:rolleyes:
 
I was down in the states--they of course have their 2nd amendment. A guy was putting some kinda cased gun in his truck and I asked him what he needed it for. He says--"its called the bill of rights--not the bill of needs."
I liked that answer.
 
sealhunter said:
It was not asked for anyone to justify why they would have a rifle in a closed season area where defense is not an issue. I simply asked reasoning.

You specified that yours would be to shoot pinecones.
I on the other hand would probably not bring a rifle into the woods where I can not legally hunt animals just to shoot pine cones.

Perhaps it is how a lot of people like me were raised. Don't get me wrong, I have wasted lots of bullets, but I was rared that bullets were for animals.
If you fired two bullets, you had two animals, or one animal and damn good reason.

I find no need to bring a fishing pole with me on closed rivers, I find no need for a rifle in closed areas.

In bear country I have my gun always, fishing, camping, hiking...
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His whole point was that it was annoying that you aren't allowed to just wander around. Ok, you don't see the point, but you also probably (and hopefully since you hunt) use the range a lot instead. A lot of westerners don't use the range. The entire of BC crown land is my range; I don't have to pay range fees, I can enjoy walking around in nature, I don't get hot casings bouncing off my head from the guy next to me and there are no range nazi's to fly off the handle and harass me and everyone around because their 4 year 4 shot sighting in session on their .22 has been interrupted by the existance of someone else at "their" range (Malahat range users - sound familiar?). It's just fun to wander with a rifle, and more fun to not live in a nanny society that has regulated everything from where you can go and when you can sh*t.

I know I am coming across a lot more aggressive and confrontational than I intend to, but I think what's really unsettling everyone is that the attitude you're espousing sounds eerily and frighteningly like the one that allowed fractioning in our community that allowed the previous bans and restrictions to come into place. :(
 
"...it's your right..." You have no constitutional right to own a firearm(or any other property). Never mind carry one in the bush.
In any case, in Ontario, even for game with no closed season(Ground hogs are hibernating, crows, fox and coyotes are ok. However, there are rules for coyotes in some WMU's), you still must have a small game hunting licence.
 
Thank God, I live were I do, when I bear takes a dump two ft from my cabin door and has ass twice as wide as my tractor. You take what ever in need with ya to the out house!! When I go scouting around I will always take a gun! The stuff I have seen, and have come across, I should put a gun rack on my lawn mower!!!!!, Hell in 50 years, you will need to take a gun to go to 7-11 to be safe in winnipeg, So gald I moved out of town close to my land
 
To sum it up for me. There is 7 weeks that I cannot use my rifle on crown land inhabited by game for whch the season is closed, each year, For the remainder of the year I enjoy having my rifle with me all over Newfoundlands 95% crown land.
Yes, for 7 weeks of the year I do use the gun range, gravel pits,etc

No where in Canadian law, constitution etc. is it our right to bear arms.

I do not compromise my rights to government, but I do share my privledges as an outdoorsman with other outdoorsman who are not hunting enthusiasts.
I have no problem with their 7 weeks a year.
 
You have a right to what?
and where?

Reserve land and crown land are different.
As are the laws that pertain to sustinence over sport.

If you are not a sustinence hunter, than I think you should have no more right than anyone else over game and land that is not reserve land

If you want to shoot moose 365 days a year on your reserve land, well that's not my business.
I don't believe that you should have to pay for hunting and fishing licenses, but I do believe bag limits and seasons should apply to everyone.
(sustinence exempt)


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