Hunting/Retiring around London, Ontario

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I'm thinking of possibly retiring there in a year or so and the wife has folks there so she wants to go there plus we both have health issues so we should stay near decent health facilities.

I'm not so sure I want to live there because I don't know what the hunting is like as this is an important part of my retirement. I wouldn't live right in London but perhaps in a small town nearby. So my question is " Is this area hunter friendly and what can I expect to shoot in the way of big game and upland?" Any comments good or bad would be appreciated. We are planning to take 3 weeks this summer to check out the area.

Would perhaps outside of Kingston, Ontario be a better choice?
 
lots of deer and turkeys and lots of private land .there is a good migration of water fowl in the fall .if you can buy some land ether south of london or north of it DUTCH
 
Plenty of deer if you are into archery or shotgun/muzzleloader.
Plenty of coyote, turkey and cottontail rabbit. Waterfowl as well.

Private farm land and small bush lots.

Where are you moving from?
 
I currently live in the Calgary area and got to say I'm pretty sick of the noise and traffic congestion as well as the go go go of everyone and his dog here. I could use a little peace and quiet.
 
I currently live in the Calgary area and got to say I'm pretty sick of the noise and traffic congestion as well as the go go go of everyone and his dog here. I could use a little peace and quiet.

Rural London Vs Calgary mmmm not sure you're gonna find the peace and quiet you're looking for. Lots of busy highways.

North of Kingston, the population thins quicker to my mind.

The member to ask about that is doug.
 
Lots of busy highways.
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Well, I live just west of London in a small town. Drive a few minutes any direction will give you quiet countryside. Mostly flat.
Go 20 minutes south, the shores of Lake Erie. Go 60 minutes west, the shores of Lake Huron.

All of the area around London is private farm land. No "Crown" land that I am aware of. But lots of deer, geese, turkey. You just need access

Just an hour north of London, near Clinton Ontario is argueably one of the best public marshes in Canada; Hullet Marsh. Here you can hunt waterfowl, deer, pheasant, rabbits, turkey.
h ttp://www.hullettmarsh.org/

Just west of London is a private pheasant farm.
h ttp://www.goldcreek.ca/

Feel free to PM me with any questions.
 
You are moving to the wrong place if you want peace and quiet...you can find real peace and quiet closer to Calgary then you will to London. 1/3 of Canada's population lives in the little southern tip of Ontario. Around London there is no upland game to speak of. Excellent hunting for deer (muzzle loader and/or shotgun, archery), turkey's, geese. Good Hunting for bunnies, ducks, and coyotes. Hardly any public land within 3 hours drive from London.
 
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I stayed in London for a few years when I was in college. granted that was thirty years ago, however, being from a small town much further north, and spending my youth in Belleville, I found London to be both busy, and noisy.
The thing you might find attractive is the aforementioned flatness, like the Calgary area, without the mountains in the distance. I think there are more gun shops in the area as well.

The Canadian shield dips down closer to Kingston, resulting in more bush. You don't need to drive as far to access crown land.
Both cities have excellent hospitals, and air access to Toronto is also available in emergencies.

Suggest you take a look at each using Google earth.
 
If you are in Alberta you will not be happy with the hunting in London.

If you need to move to the London area, stay a good 25 minutes out of the city for sure.

Retiring here for the health facilities is a great idea, retiring here to hunt...will not be very exciting coming from Alberta.
 
If you are a fisherman London is within an hour of some of the best Trout fishing in Ontario. Not to mention Pickerel and Bass.
 
You are moving to the wrong place if you want peace and quiet...you can find real peace and quiet closer to Calgary then you will to London. 1/3 of Canada's population lives in the little southern tip of Ontario. Around London there is no upland game to speak of. Excellent hunting for deer (muzzle loader and/or shotgun), turkey's, geese. Good Hunting for bunnies, ducks, and coyotes. Hardly any public land within 3 hours drive from London.

I tend to disagree here. I have hunted around the London area alot he last few years and I have shot pheasants, grouse and wood ####, and I have seen lots of turkeys, deer and waterfowl.

Having said that, I live about 20 north west of Kingston and I love it here. Great hunting for just about anything you want, the only thing we don't have that the London area does is pheasant, and most guys aound here that want to chase the ditch parrots go to a game farm.

I think both areas have pleanty to offer, it might be best to check out both areas to make sure you make an informed decision.
 
I tend to disagree here. I have hunted around the London area alot he last few years and I have shot pheasants, grouse and wood ####, and I have seen lots of turkeys, deer and waterfowl.

Having said that, I live about 20 north west of Kingston and I love it here. Great hunting for just about anything you want, the only thing we don't have that the London area does is pheasant, and most guys aound here that want to chase the ditch parrots go to a game farm.

I think both areas have pleanty to offer, it might be best to check out both areas to make sure you make an informed decision.

Not sure where around London you encountered grouse and pheasants in a huntable number. My family has a fairly large farm (3000 acres) 15 mintues from London and I having been working the land for 20+ years and think I have seen 10 pheasants and maybe 20 grouse over this time frame. I hunt for deer in south-central ontario and see more grouse in a week then I would in a decade around here.

Reference Ontario Out of Doors for more information. They have an article on Pheasants and this is a qoute "In 1997, a reintroduction programme was announced, which eventually partnered the Rural Lambton Stewardship Network (RLSN) and the Ministry of Natural Resources (MNR) and others. Five years later, after public consultations, environmental assessments, and a host of preparations, 46 wild pheasants were released in Lambton County. By 2004, a total of 210 birds had been trapped and transferred successfully from near Leader, Saskatchewan, to release sites in Ontario's Lambton and Elgin Counties.

Initially, these western birds seemed to adapt well. Unfortunately, the most recent surveys indicate no pheasant sightings in Lambton County and only a small pocket of 30 to 40 birds in Elgin County. At best, the latter group is holding its ground; at worst, it's merely two years behind the initial group in a steady decline."

"From a hunter's perspective, however, the pheasant reintroduction has failed. While no one could have reasonably expected a huntable population of birds to emerge from these reintroductions in so short a time, most of us were hoping for a slow increase in numbers and perhaps a small trap-and-transfer effort modelled after the wild turkey programme. Instead, there's been a steady decline since the initial releases."

For comparison I have hunted wild turkey for 10 years and have gotten a bird every year. There have been days when we have seen 20 birds within shooting distance and I have yet to see a pheasant or a grouse...although I was very excited to hear a grouse drumming last spring.

There is a huntable population of woodcock for a month or so during migration...remember that you need a migratory bird license and not a small game license.
 
I'm thinking of possibly retiring there in a year or so and the wife has folks there so she wants to go there plus we both have health issues so we should stay near decent health facilities.

I'm not so sure I want to live there because I don't know what the hunting is like as this is an important part of my retirement. I wouldn't live right in London but perhaps in a small town nearby. So my question is " Is this area hunter friendly and what can I expect to shoot in the way of big game and upland?" Any comments good or bad would be appreciated. We are planning to take 3 weeks this summer to check out the area.

Would perhaps outside of Kingston, Ontario be a better choice?

I am originally from the London area and I still have family there. After thirty years of Army life I settled in Kingston.

Health care is excellent in both cities, but I believe that wait times are longer for most procedures in London. You should be able to find that out on-line.

There is pretty darned good deer and waterfowl hunting down around London, as folks have mentioned already in this thread. There is also pretty darned good deer and waterfowl hunting around Kingston. If you are an angler, the Kingston area has some exceptional fishing and I suggest has better fishing than the London area. But no matter where you live in Southern Ontario, you can be into excellent fishing with a few hours of driving.

Traffic around London itself is nasty. Outside the city any distance, not bad at all. Kingston has some traffic, but pretty much as soon as you are north of the 401, there isn't much.

If your wife has family in London, and if you settle in Kingston, the travel back and forth is a SOB. The 401 is almost always a gong show, and you never know what you will encounter to get through Toronto. I have aging parents down north of London and I SHOULD visit them more often, but the drive is a serious PITA. If family contact is important, that would be my "tipping factor" right there.

Free advice, worth what you paid for it.

Doug
 
I agree on the lack of upland game near london, I live about 1/2 hr west of london, and I can assure everyone that grouse/pheasants/hungarian partridge are not available in huntable populations.

Deer would be the most available critter to be hunted. the season close to london is one week long and shotguns/muzzleloader only depending on the week you pick. Archery season is about three months long. Depending on exactly where you hunt up to 6 deer may be taken in one year. If you want to hunt with a rifle 5+hrs drive.

Waterfowl is fairly abundant, canada geese are everywhere.

Rabbits are so/so, squirrels are everywhere in abundance.

black bears are about a 5hr drive minimum to find huntable populations. Moose more so and tags are a bit$ch to get.

Turkeys are everywhere in the area, very huntable.

The problem is going to be access to hunting areas:(. There is a small amount of crown land available in the area. It will be empty most of the year except for deer season (then it will be pretty well shoulder to shoulder). Other than that you will have to cultivate relationships with farmers. Most farms are about 100 acres or so mixed bushlot arable land, so you would have to find a few different ones probably.

Any other questions on the London area shoot me a pm. I have lived here in the area my whole life.
 
There's no good deer here, stay away, we only get these small ones around here
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Other than that you will have to cultivate relationships with farmers.
Been hunting the muzzleloader hunt south of London for years. We used to have about five different places to hunt. We are down to only two left (deaths of owners and resales of farms). It's been real hard to get permission in the last ten years it seems. These days lots of city folk living on farms that love to see the deer. Actual farmers with crops don't think the deer look so cute and tend toward wanting them hunted.
 
thats been our experience as well, we are a group of about 8 farmers that hunt together- we used to have literally thousands of acres to hunt- full concessions etc... as the farmers/neighbours sell out or pass on we have lost alot of our hunting ground. It seems almost without exception that after the farmer goes it gets sold to some horse people and that is the end of hunting there!
pretty soon we will be down to only our own land to hunt.
 
Where do live now? what kind of medical issues do you have? hopefully not respiratory, as London is in the smog belt, that runs from Windsor to Quebec city. Hot summers, high humidity, and rampant air pollution, not very good factors for some one with medical problems if they include heart or respiratory issues. I grew up in eastern Ontario, along the St. Lawrence, not far from the Quebec border, suffered from extreme seasonal allergies all my life until we moved to Alberta and then to central BC many years ago, we will never go back to Ontario. There are places out west to avoid also, open pit coal mines, sour gas wells etc, but nothing like eastern and south eastern Ontario. Have you considered "up the valley" north of Brockville, around Smiths Falls, Renfrew,etc to name a few, they are within an hour or two of Ottawa, pollution is not as bad as most of the little towns have lost their major industries, also makes for some of the cheapest real estate in eastern Ontario, and a very good hunting area.
 
the problem with around here is its all private land and everyone is reluctant to let you onto it because of their neighbours who may complain(happened we lost two farms) or past hunters who have abused it.

makes it hard to start out around here
 
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