hunting rifle question

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I am hoping to get my hunting license in September and had a couple questions. I do not know any hunters or anything about hunting. I enjoy fishing, particularly the act of catching, cleaning and eating so hunting is the natural progression. I live in Ontario near Toronto.

What sort of game could I expect with in a few hour drive of the city? Also, what calibres would match what game (a list or link to one would be great)?

Is there such thing as a "beginners" hunting lodge? Somewhere that teaches you how to shoot game, techniques for tracking etc, and then a guide takes you out? Something more in depth then the course will be. I did that with fishing and found it immensely helpful.

Thanks!
 
I live an hour north of toronto, there is plenty to hunt here. Within 5km of me there is plenty of deer, turkeys, and even some bear, and if you push that boundary to 20km there is plenty of waterfowl action to be had. On top of that there are lots of small game options, rabbit, squirrel, and some grouse.
You want to find someone who can show you the ropes, maybe a friend, relative, or even some more experienced and willing folk on here.
Where abouts do you live?
 
Welcome to the new adventure you will undertake. The hunting sport is not forever one. Many times I asked myself why am I hear in the cold wet drizzly day when I could be home in my soft warm bed. Well there is no answer I love to hunt something inside says go out and endure the weather and hopefuly be successful in the hunt.

Having said the above, If you signed up for the course you will learn the what ifs and the firearms and the calibres needed in relation to the game you will be going after. The internet is a great tool to do your research on the places or mentors available to you. Clubs and local sports stores are another good source of information.

Good luck and welcome aboard.
 
You don't say if you have a firearms background or if you own any guns. That might be a good place to start. You can learn good field marksmanship techniques in about a week under a good instructor. I state field marksmanship because many who post on here don't seem to know the difference between the shooting one might expect to do at the range; from the bench, on a well defined stationary target, at a measured distance, and shooting in the field where in addition to the challenges of shooting on the range you have to deal with hold the rifle in your hands, and engage a partially obscured target that holds a stationary position only momentarily, has a poorly defined aiming point and is most often observed at an unknown range.

Yet we hear people say they have the best hunting rifle because it shoots into a half minute. In the field reliability, durability, and good handling qualities in your rifle trump any concerns you might have concerning anything greater than what might be consider mundane accuracy. Naturally the farther away you intend to shoot, the greater the need there is for precise accuracy, but over normal hunting ranges which might extend to 300 yards or so, 2-3 MOA is more than sufficient, and more than the vast majority of hunter can hold.

With respect to power, the more powerful your rifle the more difficult it is to shoot due to blast and recoil. I consider the 6.5X55 cartridge to be a good minimum recommendation for all North American big game. The rifles tend to be accurate and reasonably flat shooting and the blast and recoil is easy on the marksman. The cartridge provides a nice balance between the .243 Winchester which isn't quite enough, and the .30/06 which some find a bit much for medium sized game and extended range time.

While many insist a rimfire is the best rifle to learn marksmanship with, I don't believe that to be necessarily true. A centerfire rifle has the benefit of providing an avenue for dry firing without causing damage to the rifle. Much can be gained from dry firing drills at home. Place a quarter on top of the barrel near the muzzle and attempt to dry fire without knocking it off. When you can do this repeatedly you will have mastered the trigger control portion of the marksmanship problem and you'll only have position, breathing, and focus to work on.
 
Thanks for the info. I am in ajax. I have experience with firearms, but no shooting at any distance. My range is indoors and only 25 meters. I have a 9mm rifle but it is both restricted and completely underpowered. I also have a 10/22. My first steps after the course will be to join an outdoor range (probably orono) and master the basics, but as was mentioned, I imagine shooting in the bush will have many other challenges.
 
I am hoping to get my hunting license in September and had a couple questions. I do not know any hunters or anything about hunting.

First step, before going into all your other questions, is try to hook up with other hunters that can take you under their wings, and teach you what they know. Without the advise of someone who has hunted in the past, and will take you out and show you the ropes, you won't learn what you need to know. Also, figure out what you want to hunt before thinking about what firearms you need, read the regs, and start from there.
 
Welcome to the club
As everyone knows hunters are the richest people on earth

I agree with pretty much everything that has been said, because of where you are located a shotgun will probably be your best course of action for a hunting firearm.
Those multi barrel combos such as the mossbergs will give you a huge variety of game that you can hunt, and will help keep your start up costs low.
 
See if you can join an existing hunt camp or group, the average age of many camps is increasing and some need new recruits. Find a group that is serious about hunting and not about drinking away from home. Even though some of my deer hunting is with dogs, you'll learn more early without them. I wouldnt recommend wandering around crown land as a new hunter unless you have some bush skills and know or scout the area in advance. A 308 or 30-06 rifle will handle all large game and a 12 gauge shotgun will handle all birds. I am a relatively new hunter but lucked out joining groups, partly through my gun club.
 
In your hunter's ed you'll learn that most deer seasons within an easy drive of you are shotgun only, plus muzzle-loader seasons. Small game and predators is limited to calibers nominally less than 0.275 ('nominally' means 270 is ok, regardless of actual diameter). But likely something 6.5mm or less is more sensible if you even go the hunting rifle route.

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Which cal?

I don't know what your finances are like or all the rules hunting the GTA area, but if I could recommend only 1 gun, I'd go with the Mossberg or Remington combo pkg. that has 1 field or turkey barrel (my druthers go to the turkey barrel, cuz it's handier for upland hunting and can be used for waterfowl) and a rifled barrel with a scope like a 1.5-6X. You'll be able to hunt anything in Bantario out to 150 yds, which will cover 95% of hunting situations. Keep in mind that there are many shotgun-only areas near urban centres.
 
Thanks for the info. I am in ajax. I have experience with firearms, but no shooting at any distance. My range is indoors and only 25 meters. I have a 9mm rifle but it is both restricted and completely underpowered. I also have a 10/22. My first steps after the course will be to join an outdoor range (probably orono) and master the basics, but as was mentioned, I imagine shooting in the bush will have many other challenges.

I would recomend the Orono club, I lived only 5 min away, and shot there many times as a guest... But never joined as I have since moved. Go there and tell them you are thinking of joining, and I am sure you could shoot for a day and test the range out and meet some great people!

Other than that I started hunting deer last year and started with a 6.5x55... 12pt in the freezer! It soft and easy to shoot yet deadly on deer! Oh, and easy to reload!

P.s. It is hard to get started but don't give up! Once you are in, the memories and experiences are unforgetable!!!!

Just my 2 cents
 
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