I have a sporterized 1869/71 Swiss Vetterli in the original short 10.4x.38R, for which I make my own rounds. Die set is from Buffalo Arms in Minnesota. The complete setup, including rifle, cost less than $500 Canadian. 50/70 Starline brass is from The Bullet Barn. A bucket of 1000 soft lead .44s are $99 from Wholesale Sports in Nanaimo. Pyrodex RS tin is $35. After setup, each round costs me approximately $1.50 to produce. Not the cheapest, but the smile factor is out of this world. At 100 yards, I can group shots to about 4 inches on a benchrest. I have a war issue 1944 .303 Fazerkerly Enfield which I use to hunt and have been tempted to switch to the Vetterli. Shooting a .44 soft lead round at anything at 100 yards will leave a large hole with considerable knock-down power. The only thing I need to do is re-blue every bit of the rifle to protect it from the elements and a substantial oiling.