Hunting with 9mm carbine??

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So I bought my wife a cz scorpion carbine. Damn thing shoots like a dream. Has anyone used a 9mm carbine for hunting? Have a coyote problem on my property...been using a 22-250 for longer shots and 17 hmr with luck as well. Thinking of trying to take a few with the scorpion. Anyone have experience?
 
Within 100 yards or so I don't know why not, for anything smaller than a couple of hundred pounds. With between 350fpe and 450fpe at the muzzle, 9mm from a carbine should deliver plenty of power at the target to do sufficient damage for an ethical hit. Provided you're a decent shot of course, and beyond about 60 yards that you understand the trajectory which starts dropping off significantly. I'd recommend lower brain shots over anything else, so provided you can manage about 2" groups with your carbine at your desired target range it should work out just fine.
 
Should work fine with HPs.
In September took two coyotes on 2 separate days off the picnic table at the camp using my Henry in 357. loaded with 158 gr SWC handloads, both were about 50 yds.
Don't see 9mm being any less effective at 100 or less.
 
I've shot coyotes with a 40 S&W carbine at 100 yards and in. It hammered them. From what I've seen it's capable beyond that BUT bullet drop becomes significant very quickly and accuracy opens up so it becomes, IMHO, unethical to push the distance of the shot. Ideally I like the shot to be 75 yards or less then all I have to do is point and shoot without any need to think about bullet drop. Ammo was Hornady 165 gr z-max which is basically the same ammo as their Critical Defense 165 gr FTX.

I see no reason why 9mm would be any different on coyotes. Just keep your shot distance realistic.

I have no experience with any pistol caliber on anything larger like deer so I'll stay out of that discussion.
 
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Id have no issues using my jrc for coyotes out to 125 yards. Unfortunately where i live i cant hunt with my jrc9mm. But i can use a 270wby mag
I bring my jrc9 up north for wolf and coyote and grouse and rabbit as well
115gr fmj for small game. 115gr hollowpoints for wolf and coyote
My buddy shot a bear about 150lbs we wrapped the fat filled rib cage in the hide and at 35 yards my 9mm hollowpoints passed clean thru hitting ribs in and out plus 7 or 8" of fat inside and buried about 2" into the sand behind. Perfect expansion. If kept to archery ranges id use it for deer as well with broadside double lung shots
 
Not sure why anyone would pass up the ultimate coyote rifle (22-250) for a 9mm. Or advocate “lower brain shots” at 100 yards with said 9mm. Talk about backwards.
 
You use what you have or like.If you can get close enough to arrow game the 9mm will certainly tuck him in for the night.Within it's range capabilities dead is dead.Not used for Best of the West 1 mile shots.
 
Not sure why anyone would pass up the ultimate coyote rifle (22-250) for a 9mm. Or advocate “lower brain shots” at 100 yards with said 9mm. Talk about backwards.
A 9mm PCC can shoot backwards? I had no idea.
As I suggested, such a shot should be taken only within one's personal skill range, which in my opinion includes anywhere that you can reliably hit a 2" target. If I'd said that 100 yards was such a range of course I'd deserve criticism, but I didn't say that, did I? Sometimes it seems reading is a lost art...
 
While I only ever shot some ground hogs and a raccoon with it, when I sold my friend my old CX4 storm he used it to shoot foxes and coyotes that came in to raid the chicken coop. Shots were inside 65 yards, and 124 grain JHP, I believe CorBons, blew toonie sized holes out the backside. For close range shooting, and a good hollow point (look for ‘defensive’ loads) I’d say you’re golden.
 
I used a Spanish Destroyer carbine for around 20 yrs for pest critters and a couple deer with fine results inside 80 yds. The deer were dumped at around 30-50 yds.
The wee beasty was in 9mm Largo (Pretty much the same as .38 Super in cartridge dimensions.) and I used hardcast 158 gr RNFP boolits (Sized to .356") in the rifle exclusively.

Sure was a fun bugger to hunt & plink with. If me eyes still worked good with irons, I would still have 'er.

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Looking at image search results for this model of CZ it seems that quite a few earlier production units had poor matching between surfaces/edges of the feed ramp and the bevelled edge of the barrel, resulting in flat nosed and hollow point bullets sometimes catching and failing to feed. Seems a lot of users didn't quite have such bad failures, but did see asymmetrical damage on some hollow point rounds when pulling them back out without firing. Some work with Dremel bits seemed to be the most common solution.

My TNW Aero has a less complete feed ramp, being two short bevelled edges cut into the chamber area with a small gap between them. It came to me quite rough, certainly no polishing done, just halfway decent machining and the black residue of the heat treatment process. I did a bunch of rounding over of edges as copper jackets on Remington UMC 147gr (flat tipped FMJ) were showing significant denting when just dropping the bolt and then pulling them to inspect. After thoroughly polishing, nothing sharp anywhere near the entry point, I stopped seeing any damage at all. Haven't tried JHP yet but I'm picking up a bunch tomorrow so then I'll see if the changes work with this more challenging round - Winchester white box 147gr JHP.

With the Aero I've found that buffer spring tension plays a very significant role in clean ejection and feeding. Even a 1 turn change in the stock results in very notable changes of function. I've found the ejection cycle a bit too violent, so tested a heavier bolt by adding a 3oz weight to the bolt handle and turning the buffer spring for 2 full turns less preload. The result was clean ejection and feeding, with less felt recoil and I think less port noise owing to the slightly increased delay before ejection with the added weight. So I ordered a tungsten rod scrap piece from a Chinese shop and when that comes I'll drill out the buffer weight and use some JB Weld to fix it in place, increasing the net weight by 3oz. I'll chop the main spring a little too, as cranking out the stock too much would leave that area barely attached and weak.

I'm doing this stuff because I want to standardize on 147gr for consistency, owing to a lot of stuff I've seen about various blowback operated 9mm carbines being ammo fussy. Using just one bullet weight and power level and fine tuning the gun to cycle those ought to make for trouble-free operation. Seems it's just part of the deal with blowback, same as fine tuning gas operated systems is quite fussy on some models of AR.
 
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