hunting with a .50 BMG

[c-fbmi]

ya 100$ for 10 rounds isn't cheap, wouldn't want to waste it blowing a huge hole in a deer.
Thats the type of round you hunt with if your a redneck, where everything you do is overkill.
The advantage of being able to shoot through a tree is one that is unnecessary.

If you have to worry about the cost of shooting a 50, you can't afford to own one. Obviously you are not well enough financially positioned to shoot it enough to become proficient with it.
For your information shooting and hunting with a 50 has nothing to do with being "redneck, where everything you do is overkill" or "blowing a huge hole in a deer" or "being able to shoot through a tree". It has to do with ultra long range precision shooting, something I'm sure you are unfamiliar with.
Your comments are offensive, sir.

 

[ndb86]

Your comments are offensive, sir.

lol

 

[762Russian]

Seems like way too much gun for any animal we got since the mammoths died off, but hey; it sure as hell kills everything dead.

 

[teenahlake]

No in Yukon, specifically prohibited.

from the yt hunting regs. not specifically prohibited, can you post chapter/verse

It is unlawful to hunt big game with:
crossbow,
pistol or a revolver,
shotgun smaller than 20 gauge,
rifle calibre less than 6 mm [.24 calibre]; (a .22 calibre [5.6 mm] centrefire rifle may be used for wolves and coyotes),
a muzzle loaded or black powder rifle less than 11.4 mm (.45 calibre),
shotgun ammunition other than a slug,
full metal-jacket bullets commonly known as “service ammunition”, or
silencing device.
Minimum firearm requirements for hunting wood bison are:
centre fire rifle, .30 calibre or larger, with minimum 180 grain bullets (premium
bullets strongly recommended) and minimum 2800 ft/lbs energy at the muzzle.
(A .30-06 calibre is the baseline rifle.)
OR
black powder rifle, .50 calibre or larger, firing an elongated bullet with a
minimum 90 grain charge and minimum 2800 ft/lbs energy at the muzzle.
OR
black powder rifle, .54 calibre or larger, firing a round ball with a minimum 120
grain charge and minimum 2800 ft/lbs energy at the muzzle. (This option, while
legal, is not recommended.)
Note: Hunters using a black powder rifle must have a centre fire rifle accessible
as back up.
Bows may not be used to hunt bison

 

[trebor2880]

from the yt hunting regs. not specifically prohibited, can you post chapter/verse

It is unlawful to hunt big game with:
crossbow,
pistol or a revolver,
shotgun smaller than 20 gauge,
rifle calibre less than 6 mm [.24 calibre]; (a .22 calibre [5.6 mm] centrefire rifle may be used for wolves and coyotes),
a muzzle loaded or black powder rifle less than 11.4 mm (.45 calibre),
shotgun ammunition other than a slug,
full metal-jacket bullets commonly known as “service ammunition”, or
silencing device.
Minimum firearm requirements for hunting wood bison are:
centre fire rifle, .30 calibre or larger, with minimum 180 grain bullets (premium
bullets strongly recommended) and minimum 2800 ft/lbs energy at the muzzle.
(A .30-06 calibre is the baseline rifle.)
OR
black powder rifle, .50 calibre or larger, firing an elongated bullet with a
minimum 90 grain charge and minimum 2800 ft/lbs energy at the muzzle.
OR
black powder rifle, .54 calibre or larger, firing a round ball with a minimum 120
grain charge and minimum 2800 ft/lbs energy at the muzzle. (This option, while
legal, is not recommended.)
Note: Hunters using a black powder rifle must have a centre fire rifle accessible
as back up.
Bows may not be used to hunt bison

Maybe the person reading the regs, didn't do so in it's entirety.

 

[crazy_davey]

Is it legal to hunt in canada with a .50BMG
Not interested in doing it, just curious to see if you can. Even though it would be pointless.

ya 100$ for 10 rounds isn't cheap, wouldn't want to waste it blowing a huge hole in a deer.
Thats the type of round you hunt with if your a redneck, where everything you do is overkill.
The advantage of being able to shoot through a tree is one that is unnecessary.

What you are doing in the above two post is called trolling. Keep it up and you wont be around here very long.

 

[Eagleye]

You seem pretty opinionated. Is this based on any real evidence, or just recycled internet opinions?

Just look at the post count! Helps evaluate the opinion.
The "big 50" would be fun to shoot something with...once anyway.
This is not likely to do undue damage to any big game animal.
Should reach right out there, though, lol.
Regards, Eagleye

 

[The Shaft]

ya 100$ for 10 rounds isn't cheap, wouldn't want to waste it blowing a huge hole in a deer.
Thats the type of round you hunt with if your a redneck, where everything you do is overkill.
The advantage of being able to shoot through a tree is one that is unnecessary.

overkill...i hate that word, what is it ???? , you kill the animal too FAST? is it too DEAD? when i shoot i want the animal to not suffer at all, i respect it so when i hit a deer with my 340 or 378 or 416 weatherby its dead on impact. so if killing too fast is overkill im guilty. and my neck is red

 

[trebor2880]

overkill...i hate that word, what is it ???? , you kill the animal too FAST? is it too DEAD? when i shoot i want the animal to not suffer at all, i respect it so when i hit a deer with my 340 or 378 or 416 weatherby its dead on impact. so if killing too fast is overkill im guilty. and my neck is red

OVERKILL

"The amount by which destruction or the capacity of destruction exceeds what is necessary."

 

[mbogo3]

Anybody eat lungs? Meat damage, I doubt it would even open up unless thinner jacket material was used.A guy locally swaged jackets out of 1/2" copper pipe with a lead core..........Harold

 

[jewman22]

You seem pretty opinionated. Is this based on any real evidence, or just recycled internet opinions?

Not just an opinion, .50 BMG is way over priced. The last i saw was 90$ for 10 rounds at wolverine supplies, and as it seems, they have the best price on them.
There is no reason why a bit of brass, some powder, a primer and a projectile should cost a little under 10$ a piece. I get that the cost would go up a little bit given larger calibers and higher grain, but this is pathetic.

 

[trebor2880]

Not just an opinion, .50 BMG is way over priced. The last i saw was 90$ for 10 rounds at wolverine supplies, and as it seems, they have the best price on them.
There is no reason why a bit of brass, some powder, a primer and a projectile should cost a little under 10$ a piece. I get that the cost would go up a little bit given larger calibers and higher grain, but this is pathetic.

Not like it's a round you can pick up at your local CTC or Walmart.

 

[jewman22]

Not like it's a round you can pick up at your local CTC or Walmart.

another problem with it, I have only been able to find a handful of dealers in the country who sell them. And most of the time their out of stock

 

[trebor2880]

another problem with it, I have only been able to find a handful of dealers in the country who sell them. And most of the time their out of stock

I only know of one person who owns one.

It's not a popular calibre.

No dealer can afford to keep a stockpile of 50 BMG,
and most gun stores would rarely, if ever, have a request for it.

 

[Wrong Way]

Not just an opinion, .50 BMG is way over priced. The last i saw was 90$ for 10 rounds at wolverine supplies, and as it seems, they have the best price on them.
There is no reason why a bit of brass, some powder, a primer and a projectile should cost a little under 10$ a piece. I get that the cost would go up a little bit given larger calibers and higher grain, but this is pathetic.

Actually it IS just your opinion....and it is a completely uneducated one.

Here, let me "educate" you why 9 bucks a piece isn't "expensive"

Lets say you reload your own (cheapest way) and lets further say you use the cheapest powder (say 60 bucks for 8 pounds) and you buy the cheapest projectiles and primers AND you allready have your own brass......

The cost to reload as per the above is about 5.50-6.00 a round.

Now you are buying COMPLETE rounds, with VIRGIN brass and bullets, from a RETAILER for 3.00 more than reloading....how is that "overpriced?"

LMAO....figure it out yourself. Each shell takes what....210 grains of powder? BMG is not cheap because it takes a LOT of powder, a LOT of brass and a LOT of bullet to get a completed round.

 

[jewman22]

Thats much cheaper but still not at the point of being a good deal. you still have to purchase your equipment to load your own shots, which isn't cheap.
It would be great if you did it a lot but i am talking about just an every know and then type of thing.

If I owned a .50 i would most likely reload them instead of just buying new rounds each time.
1/2 price is good but still expensive.

 

[Wrong Way]

Thats much cheaper but still not at the point of being a good deal. you still have to purchase your equipment to load your own shots, which isn't cheap.
It would be great if you did it a lot but i am talking about just an every know and then type of thing.

If I owned a .50 i would most likely reload them instead of just buying new rounds each time.
1/2 price is good but still expensive.

First off, 6.00 vs. 9.00 is NOT "1/2 price". It's a difference of 3.00....."1/2 price" would be 4.50 a round......and you are forgetting that the 6.00 I mentioned does NOT include brass, while the 9 dollar rounds DO.

Look, you can't afford a 50....there's nothing wrong with that.....but rather than trying to belittle those who can (too expensive, stupid, rednecks, etc) because you are embarrased, maybe you should just move on to a topic you know about . Just a suggestion

 

[Superbrad]

Actually it IS just your opinion....and it is a completely uneducated one.

Here, let me "educate" you why 9 bucks a piece isn't "expensive"

Lets say you reload your own (cheapest way) and lets further say you use the cheapest powder (say 60 bucks for 8 pounds) and you buy the cheapest projectiles and primers AND you allready have your own brass......

The cost to reload as per the above is about 5.50-6.00 a round.

Now you are buying COMPLETE rounds, with VIRGIN brass and bullets, from a RETAILER for 3.00 more than reloading....how is that "overpriced?"

LMAO....figure it out yourself. Each shell takes what....210 grains of powder? BMG is not cheap because it takes a LOT of powder, a LOT of brass and a LOT of bullet to get a completed round.

WW's reasoning is good... and as someone in manufacturing let me take it to the next step....

For the amount of orders manufacturers get for these rounds they have to have tooling for all of the parts that make up a round, from casing to primer to bullet, all of these things have tooling specific to their needs.... I have never seen bullets made in the factory but I wou;ld assume that changing over a production line to make these large sized rounds is quite an ordeal....

The return on investment on a set(s) of tooling vs. say a set of .30-06 tooling will be small and thus the price reflects the cost of manufacturing....

The materials themselves (metals, powder, lead, copper) pale in comparison to the cost of changing over a production line for a small run and changing it back to a different product....

I would even guess that as rare as these rounds are some of the parts are outsourced which further drives up the prices.... There is a lot that goes into costing something..... We haven't even touched on inventory or warehousing costs.....

 

[CV32]

Maybe the person reading the regs, didn't do so in it's entirety.

It is unlawful to hunt big game with:
... rifle calibre less than 6 mm [.24 calibre]; (a .22 calibre [5.6 mm] centrefire rifle may be used for wolves and coyotes), ...

Minimum firearm requirements for hunting wood bison are:
centre fire rifle, .30 calibre ...

Assuming that's the correct and applicable section of the Yukon regs, nothing in there prohibiting .50 BMG.

 

[3strokes]

Elephants?