blasted_saber
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- A blue part of Ontario
You're going to get flamed for being ignorant, not for not being a hunter.
Hunting with dogs. What are your thoughts.
- Thread starter Madmardigan
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You're going to get flamed for being ignorant, not for not being a hunter.
drache, I don't mind you having a sore spot at all and I will gladly tell the next cat I get to hunt with dogs how you feel. When would you prefer I tell him? Before or after it's down?? I'm sure it will appreciate the sentiment.
Have you ever tried to chase down a cat, without dogs??? Have you been successful??
You don't need a pack to hunt cougars, even one well trained hound will do. A couple is even better. Many guys with hounds, have to many on the chase and because of that, the chase goes on a lot longer than it needs to.
antiqueguy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- windsor ontario
the way I see it dogs are good for birds and that's about it I don't like to put my family members at risk. if you need to tree a big cat I don't the point im not going to say It should not be a option because that's someone else's choice to do it or not but id like my target to have a fare chance
I am personally not a fan of using dogs for anything besides birds. To me treeing a cat or running deer with a dog is not very "sporting."
Again this is my opinion, I would like to think most are about "ethical" hunting. While sure the animal might end up dead, right quick once the hunter shows up. I somehow doubt running for your life from a bunch of dogs would seem very fun or fair if the dogs were chasing you.
However if there is a legit need for predator or pest control to keep people and livestock safe.... well let er rip. (Sorry I don't consider your pet cat or dog in that list, and yes I have/ had both)
Once again JMO
Again this is my opinion, I would like to think most are about "ethical" hunting. While sure the animal might end up dead, right quick once the hunter shows up. I somehow doubt running for your life from a bunch of dogs would seem very fun or fair if the dogs were chasing you.
However if there is a legit need for predator or pest control to keep people and livestock safe.... well let er rip. (Sorry I don't consider your pet cat or dog in that list, and yes I have/ had both)
Once again JMO
Totally agree with above statement. Hunting and tracking as skill set, respectful of nature I have no issue with. Chasing any animal with dogs that either tree it or tear it apart is f en cruelty. I especially find the hero's that allow their dogs to chase deer on the river ice repulsive and represent the sport of hunting at its worst.
Have any of you who think it's unsporting to run dogs, ever chased a pack? It's not easy catching up to dogs in rough country. But a hound baying is an electrifying sound, it'll keep you moving. It's a hard way to hunt. Also, not every cat that gets treed gets shot.
The dogs they use are born to it too. A friend of mine had a game bred hound as a foster dog. That dog could spend 4 hours a day on a treadmill, plus a run with my friend on his bike, and be 100% ready to go. They need to run and hunt, and get excited at the prospect of a hunt, just like a bird dog does when it see's the gun cases.
The dogs they use are born to it too. A friend of mine had a game bred hound as a foster dog. That dog could spend 4 hours a day on a treadmill, plus a run with my friend on his bike, and be 100% ready to go. They need to run and hunt, and get excited at the prospect of a hunt, just like a bird dog does when it see's the gun cases.
Feel how you will, I still don't believe it's fair hunting. No different than chasing an animal down on a quad until it's too tired and then shooting it in my books.
As for hunting without dogs, my great grandfather did it, a lot. Was rarely skunked. There are many places where hunting cougar with dogs is illegal and yet people still get their cats by calling them in.
On another forum I'm a member of, people have called cougars within easy bow shot distance.
In fact here's one of the member's website who is an avid cougar hunter, makes cougar calls, and is really good at getting his limit every year:
http://www.rain-shadow.com/prod03.htm
Took the words right out of my mouth. CGN is all about supporting the shooting sports is it not?
I take it you've never hunted with dogs? I have my doubts you could... Not very sporting indeed.lol
Yes I was on a hunt with a dog. The dog treed the bear and my friend shot it. Never hunted like that again and never hunted with that friend again. I don't find chasing a terrified animal through the brush until it's so tired it climbs a tree sporting at all. No different than chasing an animal while on a quad until it's so tired that it lays down waiting for you to kill it.
lazyfarmer
CGN Regular
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- S.W.Ontario
Our family have always used hounds for hunting, rabbit, fox, deer, racoon and coyotes. There are lots of dogs but not many real good ones, it takes a lot of time and work to get a dog trained to do what you want him to. A good dog is the best hunting partner you will ever have and I look back fondly on the memories of 50 years of dog ownership. Anybody that has followed hounds knows it more than just a matter of opening the tailgate of the truck and shooting your game 5 minutes later. In all my years of hunting i have never seen an unwounded animal be it racoon, fox, rabbit, coyote or deer run down by our dogs. It takes knowledge of your area, your games habits, some legwork and a bit of luck to be in the right place at the right time to get some shooting. There are some areas of hunting and shooting that I myself don't care for but I would never presume to critisize anyone elses perferences of legal hunting or shooting practices.
I've never hunted bear with dogs. I don't think I would but I'm not a bear hunter. I've never liked killing a bear.
Cats or pigs.. Yes. Birds, yes.
I'm trying to think of a reason NOT to hunt the cats? If there is a sustainable population, then hunting should be allowed. I suppose the people questioning the why's of this simply don't have a good understanding of the subject.
Mount Sweetness
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Southern Ontario
It seems that nowadays I will ONLY hunt WITH dogs. I enjoy all types of hunting but I have come to realize that I find the most enjoyment in hunting with hounds. All I need is a good beagle and a shotgun.
