Hunting with my father.

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Hunting with my father.
I've never hunted with my dad. It's nobodies fault but my own. He's an accountant in Vernon B.C., so not a stereotypical hunting enthusiast. He's always been keen to listen to my hunting stories, share in the bounty of my hunts, and appreciates my passion for it. He's just never approached me about hunting, and logistics (my family living in Saskatoon and him being in the Okanagan) have played into it.

Having said that, he did go out last year and take a firearm safety and a hunters safety course. He went on to get his PAL, all on his own accord. I was excited for him and called him up and got him pointed in the right direction for a couple of starter guns to shoot at the range by his place. He ended up with a .17 HMR and a .22-250, and he apparently loves it! I sent him out my old range finder and gave him my spotting scope as well to use at the range. (I'm not really that generous, I was kinda looking for an excuse to get into a new spotting scope).

So back towards my point, I was talking with him last night and he mentioned that a mutual friend of ours from the Westlok area had offered to take him and I with him this fall on his annual moose hunt. My dad was as excited as a chubby kid in a candy store and it was infectious. Unfortunately, the logistics of lining it up would be fairly intense, both being non-residents of Alberta.

We got to talking and even batted around the idea of going on a guided hunt in the Yukon. We browsed a few outfitting web sites and eventually realized that neither of us really wanted to spend ~$15k-25k for a moose hunt.

Now you might be wondering why we settled on moose? No real reason aside from myself never having shot a moose before, and both of us enjoying moose meat. I kind of figured that if we were going to go through the planning of a mutual hunt, we'd just as well seize the opportunity to attempt to harvest a critter I'd always wanted to.

So now we've more/less rules out going on an outfitted hunt in the Yukon, and neither of us seem to keen on the idea of hoping to be drawn in Alberta to be able to hunt with our friend.

My most recent progression of this hunting plan was this:

To research and find a WMU in B.C. with a relatively high success rate. Neither of us are hunting solely for antlers. Although it would be pretty neat to bag a nice bull we would both be more than happy with a good meat animal. Keep in mind this is going to be my first ever moose hunt and my fathers first hunt period.

So, assuming we could find a decent zone in B.C., he could apply and receive his host license and I could by a non-resident tag. This is the only way aside from a guided hunt that I can see us hunting together without being at the mercy of the draw.

My questions to my fellow hunters are these:

-Can you recommend starting points as far as locations in B.C. that would seem to meet our criteria? Keeping in mind that my dad is a relatively fit 61 years old. We will likely need to be outfitting ourselves unless he happens to know somebody in Northern B.C. who would be willing to help us out. I don't have a UTV, ATV, horses, or any of the typically helpful motorized vehicles. (I may be willing to buy a side by side or something if I absolutely had to)

-Am I missing something with this plan that needs to be pointed out to me? I really want to make this hunt happen, if for nothing else to be able to have memories of having hunted with my dad.

-Is it legal for me to contract the services (expertise, equipment, help processing the animal, etc) of an every day hunter, or do I need to either go it alone with dad or use an outfitting company? This is likely going to be a one off hunt so I'm not crazy about the idea of sinking too much money into equipment that I may not have much use for after the fact.

-If so does anybody have any recommendations or personal interest in helping us out?

If you made it all the way through this post, thanks for taking the time to read it. Thanks also in advance for any and all help or suggestions.

Kevin Wall.
 
I've never hunted there so I can't help at all but your dad will have to become acquainted wit something bigger then a 22250 for moose. If he's new to shooting and hunting you should have him find out if he can handle a proper firearm. A 270 doesn't kick much but some can't handle a bigger centerfire accurately
 
If you have taken some sort of hunting training course then the person who applies for the permit to accompany you has to have held a big game tag at least twice in past five years. Also the person who applies for the permit to accompany can be any resident of BC.


4A non-resident of BC who is a resident
of Canada or a Canadian citizen may be
accompanied by a resident of BC who holds
a Permit to Accompany. Only one Permit to
Accompany will be issued to a person in a
licence year.
4The BC resident applying for this permit
must be a Canadian citizen or permanent
resident of Canada who has held a BC
hunting licence and a big game species
licence for 3 of the 5 years preceding
application (or 2 of the 5 years preceding application if the applicant has completed C.O.R.E). This person must obtain
the required permit at least one month
prior to hunting. Applications for permits are
available at Service BC offices, the Permit &
Authorization Service Bureau, or electronically from the MoE website: www.env.gov.
bc.ca/pasb/applications.html. (See
Wildlife Permits & Commercial Licences
article, page 63.)


The Peace(Region 7b) and Skeena(Region 6) are the two regions that have an any bull season for moose so I would suggest trying there.
 
I've never hunted out west, so I can't help at all with your specific questions. I simply have two observations. First: congratulations on making the decision to share a hunt (and hopefully many more!) with your father. It won't really matter where you go or what, if anything, you shoot...the hunt will be a success regardless of these details. My father and I never travelled anywhere for a hunt that we couldn't easily drive to...some of my most treasured memories are of simple hunts on the back 40 of my property, for deer and turkey. My favourite trophy is the little almost-spike buck he shot on my land in his last year.

Second: If you even temporarily were considering spending that much on a Yukon moose hunt...consider going to Africa! A plains game for a few species would cost way less money than you quoted, and it would be an exotic adventure for both of you. It could be tailored to your dad's physical condition, with as much or as little walking as he could stand. My biggest regret is not convincing my ol' man to do this with me.

Whatever you decide, best of luck to you. Post results afterward!
 
Moose is a big critter.
I would suggest kidnapping someone with moose harvesting
experience for your hunt.
Rope would be a good investment.
 
-Can you recommend starting points as far as locations in B.C. that would seem to meet our criteria? Keeping in mind that my dad is a relatively fit 61 years old. We will likely need to be outfitting ourselves unless he happens to know somebody in Northern B.C. who would be willing to help us out. I don't have a UTV, ATV, horses, or any of the typically helpful motorized vehicles. (I may be willing to buy a side by side or something if I absolutely had to)

Most regions have huntable moose but you'll need to be looking at the north and north west for an open season on big bulls. Keep in mind that open seasons are generally a ZOO with road warriors from all over. It really helps to do your research and get off the beaten path. It will likely be a trip and a learning experience unless you have a lot of luck on your side or cover some ground off the roads.......which can be very difficult to do effectively with no experience and just two people. Another viable option would be a calf season or a limited entry hunt. The odds of a successful draw are pretty good in some regions and you won't have quite so much traffic if you'd prefer to stick to roads.

-Am I missing something with this plan that needs to be pointed out to me? I really want to make this hunt happen, if for nothing else to be able to have memories of having hunted with my dad.

Mostly a lot of planning. Google earth is awesome for researching access and what's off the road in an area you're interested in. It never tells the whole story and won't show you a deactivated road or washout. Your biggest moose will be in the northwest and usually your best opportunities are usually out of the way or on limited entry.

-Is it legal for me to contract the services (expertise, equipment, help processing the animal, etc) of an every day hunter, or do I need to either go it alone with dad or use an outfitting company? This is likely going to be a one off hunt so I'm not crazy about the idea of sinking too much money into equipment that I may not have much use for after the fact.
Any compensation arrangement, including offering to split the animal is considered guiding and if they're not licensed to do so, it's illegal guiding.

-If so does anybody have any recommendations or personal interest in helping us out?
I know a little bit about the skeena region. I think it's important to figure out an area you're definitely interested in and ask questions from there. I used to have a beautiful spot that was easy to access, and I could reliably get a moose every year. The last time that I got one there, I counted 7 moose in the same place standing around while I was dressing the 8th. A few years later, somone moved into the area and cut a pile of quad trails and I'd see more hide and bone piles than even 5 people could take and not many moose. People will give friendly advice, but I wouldn't expect a good semeritan to step forward and tell you their best spot and help haul the moose out. I hope you follow through with this. Do a lot of looking at maps and decide where you want to go. I can pretty much gaurantee that if there's an open season, there will be moose. There isn't anywhere legal for your average hunter where you'll be able to reliably just go for a drive, hop out and blast your moose down and haul it away. I think once you decide on a destination, your chances of finding some specific advice might be a little better. Good luck!
 
Thanks for the advice fella's.

I realized today that if we are to hunt in B.C. together we'll need a third party. He can't host me as he's never held a license yet.

We do have some progress though, he has some logging clients out in the Nakusp area who offered to set us up, point us in the right direction, and come help us dress and remove the game. To date, it's the most appealing option.

We will definitely make this happen. My mom passed this fall and it's given me a much greater appreciation as to the value of spending time with family. I'm determined, and so is he.
 
The time with your father around a camp fire hoisting a few and the
stories back and forth are worthy indeed.
The moose would be a bonus.
Good luck to you and your father.
Cheers.
 
My dad no longer hunts... We spent countless hours together chasing grouse and rabbits... He is far and away my best friend...

There is not a day that goes by when we are together that we don't talk hunting... My dad is as fuddly as they come... But he is my son's caregiver when I am out deeer hunting and helps mentor him... He helps me butcher my deer by hand every year and when I quit smoking a year ago he handed me a 1k gift certificate to lebarons to buy a new rifle...

Bottom line, hunting brings us together op... I wish only the best for you and your dad and I hope you guys realize the value in the chase and the camp and not just the kill... You have a great opportunity on your hands...
 
I understand the predicament you are in to hunt with your father, you mentioned him getting a BC license to be able to take you hunting in BC,
this all gets pretty frustrating,
have you considered getting the appropriate licenses for him to hunt in Sask???
as Sask has some incredible moose hunting , and some awesome big moose
you may have to get your guiding licence for Sask, but I don't believe it would be any harder then your dad getting his hunter host license in BC.
and Sask has way better moose hunting then Alberta, I know this as I grew up moose hunting in Alberta, and moved to Sask 6 years ago I have gotten a moose every year since, some on the draw some on general season, I would got 2,3 even 5 years with out getting a moose in Alberta,
and you don't have to travel very far from Stoon to find good Big moose habitat and hunting areas
Saskatchewan Outfitters Association is a good place to start inquiring
 
If a moose hunt becomes too much of a headache to put together, how about a deer hunt in one of the provinces? Being out with Dad is a matter of more importance than the where of the hunt, or the species of the quarry. I hunted with my dad, but now that he's gone, it seems like it was no where near often enough. I now hunt with my sons from time to time, but their work schedules and commitments to their young families keep our outings to a minimum as well. Sometimes it's very difficult to make those special times happen. Stay determined. Both you and your dad will be thankful for it.
 
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