Hunting with sks?

I have other guns that I would use. However, it is absolutely just as good as a 30/30 for taking small to mid-sized deer WITHIN 150 metres. In many parts of Europe, the 7.62x39 is preferred over a 30/30 for deer.

I also hear that the 8mm Mauser is a great deer and larger game round, and there are more than a few milsurps floating around in that calibre as well.

Use what you have, but make sure shot placement is correct. I personally wouldn't attempt a shot over 100 metres, as you are relying upon iron sights in most cases.
 
The 7.62x39 has taken over the spot formerly enjoyed by the .30-30. My old '94 stays in the safe nowadays.
I mean who wouldn't want to whack a deer old-school commie style if they had the chance?
 
I use SKS for early whitetail doe season, but not for big bucks where I need the longer shots and more energy.

One comparison not made against 30.30 is that the 30.30 is a bull nose and 7.62x39 is a soft point boat tail that has a better flight. If you make the comparison then compare the same weight of bullets. Both at 125gr, the x39 is better. Most people use 170 gr in their 30.30s but only 125 gr in their x39. A 170gr 30.30 is better than a x39 in 125 gr. in energy alone. Having this said, both calibers are on the short end of the stick as far as range and energy.

I use both x39 and 30.30, and they work well on medium size deer with iron sights up to 150 yards. When I'm moose or trophy hunting for big bucks, I want all the advantages of range and energy in the larger calibers to ensure my animal drops on the spot for a clean kill.

Which is why I posted the velocities and energies for all 3 weights in the .30-30, and both weights in the x39mm. However, this all goes out the door when and if the Hornady "Flex-tips" take off and we get published, reliable data for them.

Just a note. I have loaded 220gr Sierra ProHunters in my SKS. I can't remember the recipe exactly but it had 12 or 15 gr of Unique behind it and was a very effective round out to 50yds (which is the max distance I could shoot at one point and situation many years ago). It was subsonic at about 1100fps and had about (calculated) 700 ft/lbs. It worked quite well and got my deer 2 years running. But then I moved out west where everything is bigger and definitely needed a longer range and went back to the 125 and 150gr bullets.
 
Of course the SKS, will kill a moose or a deer. So will a 22rf. As long as the animal is close enough, to do it cleanly. When I was a kid, 50 years ago, it was common practise around my parents farm, to wait in the corn patch, until a deer walked to within 10 yards or so, then shoot it through the ear. Dropped like a stone. Same for the 7.62x39. If your emotions, are controlled enough, to wait for the ideal shot, within effective range, OK.

The 7.62 x39, has another problem. BULLETS. Yes, I know they make soft point bullets, that are legal to hunt with. That doesn't mean that they are ethical.
There was a post here about energy. Energy on target is only meaningful, if the sectional density of the bullet is acceptable. The SD of the 7.62x39, is sadly lacking. That short, bullet at low velocity, sheds energy way to fast, upon impact.

Another problem, with the SKS, is accuracy. Most of them just don't shoot all that well. There should be a few cries of outrage here. The average SKS, gives about an 8-10cm group at 100m. That's usually off a bench. Offhand is anyone's guess. Now, I will be the first to admit, there are exceptions.

In a bolt action rifle, where the cartridge can be loaded to its real potential, with heavier bullets and better velocity, as well as potentially better accuracy, it should do the job OK, again, as long as discretion is used.

I've seen plenty of horror stories in the bush, during hunting season. Mostly due to human error and poor cartridge/rifle choice. I watched a young fellow shoot a bear, 3 years ago, with his "Grampa's 30-30, with Garampa's 50 year old ammunition". Nothing wrong with the ammunition, it did everything it was supposed to do. The young fellow had a box and a half of "Dominion" 170gr, flat nose. He had shot off a box, at the range, from the bench and felt he knew the rifle well enough to hunt with. He felt the remaining dozen or so cartridges should do him for both bear in the spring and deer in the fall. Well, to make a long story short, he shot at the bear at just over 200m. He missed the first few and hit it in the ham on the third round. The bear ran away of course. He saw another bear, thought it was the same bear, much closer. He shot it in the paunch, again, it ran away. He of course, kept levering rounds after it, until he was out of ammunition and was lamenting the cost of another box of ammo.
I wanted to take the rifle from him and wrap it around his head. His father finally showed up to see what all the shooting was about. His comment was, "Oh well, the other bears will eat them, after they die. C'mon son, we need to get home for dinner". I found both bears, the next morning, one was still alive, with the hip wound and the gut shot one had actually been hit far enough ahead to clip the back of both lungs and died. The hip shot animal was bawling, like a baby when I got close enough to finish it.

Now that story may or may not be typical but it is a very likely outcome with an SKS.

I refused to take a fellow on a hunt with me this spring, when he said he was using an SKS. He had enough trouble shooting his other rifles, that I know are accurate, to compound his lousy shooting, with a marginally accurate SKS, was the last straw.
 
I will admit that there are shortcomings to each and every firearm. However, there are many that use the SKS, as I have said. There is nothing wrong with the cartridge. To quote Dirty Harry, "A man's got to know his limitations". If you can't shoot it, then you should be shooting something else or staying home playing Wii.
I have cleanly taken deer with an SKS for several years. Using both 125 and 150gr bullets. I will agree that very few people can shoot most SKS's accurately at 200 yds. Most will only group well enough for hunting at 100. If you get a shooter, keep it. I have 3. 2 shoot minute of barn, but one shoots almost MOA (1.25"). Still I use other rifles to shoot this cartridge beyond 150yds.
However, there are some who can't shoot 200yds no matter what they are using.
The round works, the rifle works, you just "got to know your limitations."
 
...I've seen plenty of horror stories in the bush, during hunting season. Mostly due to human error and poor cartridge/rifle choice. I watched a young fellow shoot a bear, 3 years ago, with his "Grampa's 30-30, with Garampa's 50 year old ammunition". Nothing wrong with the ammunition, it did everything it was supposed to do. The young fellow had a box and a half of "Dominion" 170gr, flat nose. He had shot off a box, at the range, from the bench and felt he knew the rifle well enough to hunt with. He felt the remaining dozen or so cartridges should do him for both bear in the spring and deer in the fall. Well, to make a long story short, he shot at the bear at just over 200m. He missed the first few and hit it in the ham on the third round. The bear ran away of course. He saw another bear, thought it was the same bear, much closer. He shot it in the paunch, again, it ran away. He of course, kept levering rounds after it, until he was out of ammunition and was lamenting the cost of another box of ammo.
I wanted to take the rifle from him and wrap it around his head. His father finally showed up to see what all the shooting was about. His comment was, "Oh well, the other bears will eat them, after they die. C'mon son, we need to get home for dinner". I found both bears, the next morning, one was still alive, with the hip wound and the gut shot one had actually been hit far enough ahead to clip the back of both lungs and died. The hip shot animal was bawling, like a baby when I got close enough to finish it.

Thankfully, that's not very common.
Personally, I would have kicked the kid square in the a$$ and bent the rifle around the father's head!

The SKS is fine in the correct hands. Some are accurate, some are crap. Choose the right rifle, know your rifle's capabilities, and most importantly, know your own capabilies. Focus on shots UNDER 100 metres, preferably, 50 metres or less, and you will have a great mid-sized dear rifle.
 
I know lots off people using SKS for hunting there using it for caribou and seal i also know people using CZ 858 Tactical-2 7.62x39mm and Polytech M14/305 .308 my advice is any rife that was made for wars is good for hunting but thats just my advice.

P.S. I now CZ 858 Tactical-2 7.62x39mm and Polytech M14/305 .308 were not made for wars but there were modeled after guns that were.
 
the only problem I have with using an SKS [or any semi automatic]is in untrained hands, people may tend to rely on multiple firepower rather than taking their time for one careful shot.I'm sure in the hands of a skilled and experianced hunter,it wouldn't matter WHAT they chose to hunt with-even as been said-a .22 which is a deadly little cartridge-within its limitations.I'm not worried about those guys-its the neophites who AREN'T skilled or have the ethics to pass on a shot that I'm worried about.Theres something to be said for respecting life,and having a reason to take it as cleanly and ethically as possable.My 6.5x55 swede costs about the same as my SKS-but is a far superior deer hunting rifle
 
I generally take a second rifle to the deer camp in case of mishaps to my Remmy 760 and am thinking of taking my Tula SKS this year. I think it is a very adequate deer rifle. In my experience the people who have the biggest issue with them are the guys who every year have to buy a bigger and more expensive rifle and can't stand to see someone else get buy with a $150.00 rifle.
 
I'm not overly concerned with the SKS's accuracy issue-most of my deer were killed well within 75 yards,and some a lot closer then that.Its the guy holding the rifle more then the rifle the guy is holding that is the issue more often than not
 
the only problem I have with using an SKS [or any semi automatic]is in untrained hands, people may tend to rely on multiple firepower rather than taking their time for one careful shot.I'm sure in the hands of a skilled and experianced hunter,it wouldn't matter WHAT they chose to hunt with-even as been said-a .22 which is a deadly little cartridge-within its limitations.I'm not worried about those guys-its the neophites who AREN'T skilled or have the ethics to pass on a shot that I'm worried about.Theres something to be said for respecting life,and having a reason to take it as cleanly and ethically as possable.My 6.5x55 swede costs about the same as my SKS-but is a far superior deer hunting rifle

Well said. I wish I could round up the dim wits (young and old) and force them to take firearms training!
 
My nephew is a decorated US marine with four tours of duty,and he was asking me about what would be a good choice to go deer/bear hunting-I told him to get a good bolt action in either 270 or 30-06 but he was insisting he ''needed'' a semi automatic,especially if he was going to hunt black bear[he had some idea of spraying them with gunfire].He just didn't ''get it'' that hunting game for meat is diferant than hunting humans ....
 
My nephew is a decorated US marine with four tours of duty,and he was asking me about what would be a good choice to go deer/bear hunting-I told him to get a good bolt action in either 270 or 30-06 but he was insisting he ''needed'' a semi automatic,especially if he was going to hunt black bear[he had some idea of spraying them with gunfire].He just didn't ''get it'' that hunting game for meat is diferant than hunting humans ....
You see, that's just plain, simple, honest to goodness advice.
But when you get back to basics, the OP is wondering if the SKS is a hunting rifle. Hands down, it is not. Can you hunt with it? Absolutely!! Are there better choices? Absolutely!! Is there any other rifle half as much fun to shoot with cheap surplus ammo? A couple, and that's the reason you can use it for hunting as well as plinking.
 
i wouldn't use it as my "primary" because i have better things to use, but if i had my sks in my hands at the time i see a deer around ~100meters, and my sniper was somewhere around me, i wouldn't hesitate to just use the sks
 
My opinion of the SKS as a hunting rifle is low, as mentioned before. I won't hunt with anyone that wants to take one on a combined hunt.
The accuracy of the SKS is what it is, because it was designed that way. The gas system causes bbl flexing. It's fine for wounding an enemy soldier or tin can, not hunting. One shot, one quick, clean kill is a mandatory requirement. The SKS, just wasn't designed to do that.
I agree with some of the above statements. Most deer sized game and many moose, are taken under 75 meters. How many SKS shooters out there, have the intestinal fortitude to back away from an iffy shot at 150 - 200 meters? From what I've seen, and heard on this site, not many.
 
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