i have a huskamaw mounted on a 338 edge,would like to now what people really think of this scope say compared to nightforce ....my friend is at the 3 thousand dollar mark with his nightforce and has it mounted on 300 rum and can not shoot any further than i can..just my thoughts i think huskamaw is best thing since sliced bread
huskamaw vs nightforce
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bearkilr
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I had a Nightforce some time ago, great scope but heavy and not suited to my needs, which is hunting.
I wouldn't buy a Huskemaw (or however it's spelled) because of the name being the first reason, plus a host of other reasons including, but not limited to, that show they sponsor...."Best of the West".
Maybe we should compare Huskemaw to King Optics, probably real close in quality.
Scopes
I personally own a NF 3.5-15x56mm with a NP-R1 (1MOA) hashmarked reticle. I absolutely love this scope and would not trade for or purchase a huskemaw ever. I admit I have little experience with them but I understand the principles of them very well.
First off, the glass, you cannot even put the two in the same category in my experience. The one I looked through several times at the range next to my NF was very disappointing optically. I found the view dull no matter how I adjusted the parallax. For the money, you should be getting better glass. I cannot see putting that scope up against a NF and it grouping as well. If you go to a new location that has a drastic change in elevation or temperature from where you gathered your data and expect the same precision you would get from plugging data into a ballistic calculator like EXBAL, then adjusted by 1/4 MOA or .1 MIL etc in a NF I would put money all other things being equal that you would come away disappointed.
My two cents based on my limited experience only... take what you will from it.
You are paying for a system and brand that is flawed for the sake of being simple, but if you wish to simply bang away at gongs or extend your abilities with practice for hunting it will work. But you won't ever see me, or any precision shooter I know ever utilizing one.
I personally own a NF 3.5-15x56mm with a NP-R1 (1MOA) hashmarked reticle. I absolutely love this scope and would not trade for or purchase a huskemaw ever. I admit I have little experience with them but I understand the principles of them very well.
First off, the glass, you cannot even put the two in the same category in my experience. The one I looked through several times at the range next to my NF was very disappointing optically. I found the view dull no matter how I adjusted the parallax. For the money, you should be getting better glass. I cannot see putting that scope up against a NF and it grouping as well. If you go to a new location that has a drastic change in elevation or temperature from where you gathered your data and expect the same precision you would get from plugging data into a ballistic calculator like EXBAL, then adjusted by 1/4 MOA or .1 MIL etc in a NF I would put money all other things being equal that you would come away disappointed.
My two cents based on my limited experience only... take what you will from it.
You are paying for a system and brand that is flawed for the sake of being simple, but if you wish to simply bang away at gongs or extend your abilities with practice for hunting it will work. But you won't ever see me, or any precision shooter I know ever utilizing one.
I believe Huskamaw scopes are made in Japan by Light Optical Works (LOW). They are probably the best manufacturer in Japan. However, LOW also make the Bushnell Elite line of scopes, Weaver, and others. Why not just buy a Weaver or Bushnell Elite?
was wondering from where is coming the NSX ones too ????
I gather Nightforce scopes are assembled in USA with Japanese parts similar to Leupold. They could also be coming from LOW too. The lower end Leupolds and "Redfields" potentially use parts from China.
My preference would be to have the scope assembled in Japan as well.
Ron,
seems the optics side is coming from LOW from what i ve heard ... Japan is the source for the optics for the rest well it can be sure but it can be everywhere
and that s true they re like Leupold assembled in USA with parts coming from everywhere.
for your preference ill try a 6500 bushnell are incredibly better than even the huskemaw .... especially on the eye relief side ...
seems the optics side is coming from LOW from what i ve heard ... Japan is the source for the optics for the rest well it can be sure but it can be everywhere
and that s true they re like Leupold assembled in USA with parts coming from everywhere.
for your preference ill try a 6500 bushnell are incredibly better than even the huskemaw .... especially on the eye relief side ...
Propaganda by design delivered by TV shows to make the public believe in a product.
Eg.
TC rifle…
7mm Mag…
Berger bullets…
Haukamaw scope…
I don’t hate any of these products but there are way better things out there. Go to the range and see what people are using instead of watching TV where people are PAID to talk big about what they use.
A TC rifle is not a Rem 700 tack driver and Haukamaw scope should never be whispered in the same sentence as NF.
Eg.
TC rifle…
7mm Mag…
Berger bullets…
Haukamaw scope…
I don’t hate any of these products but there are way better things out there. Go to the range and see what people are using instead of watching TV where people are PAID to talk big about what they use.
A TC rifle is not a Rem 700 tack driver and Haukamaw scope should never be whispered in the same sentence as NF.
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I believe lenses come from Japan and Germany for Leupold, the main reason being there are no high quality, mass produced lens manufacturers in North America. I remember reading a statement from Leupold somewhere that no parts come from China and only lenses are outsourced. I'm sure the same can be said for Nightforce.
Leupold have trashed the Redfield name and the suspicion is that they are using China parts in it. Also the Leupold VX-I is rather low quality scope and I would not be surprised that the parts for it are coming from China too. What I have seen about Leupold is that their parts come from Asia (which does not rule out China). I think they are running a bit of a scam by saying their scopes are made in the USA.
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There are some scope manufacturers that you can compare side by side and some you just shouldn't.
European glass is where it is at. Forget about those silly bells and whistles they try to sell us. It has nothing to do with "shooting further". I can put a toilet paper roll and a rifle and shoot 2.5 miles.
It is about clarity, repeatability with adjustments, durability, and consistency. IMO
To me that Huskawhatchamagoo is something that is marketed and geared towards shooters just as smoke and mirrors that you will never need for hunting purposes.
European glass is where it is at. Forget about those silly bells and whistles they try to sell us. It has nothing to do with "shooting further". I can put a toilet paper roll and a rifle and shoot 2.5 miles.
It is about clarity, repeatability with adjustments, durability, and consistency. IMO
To me that Huskawhatchamagoo is something that is marketed and geared towards shooters just as smoke and mirrors that you will never need for hunting purposes.
If you are looking for great optics for hunting in the upper price range, which it appears that you are. Consider comparing, NF, to Swarovski, Schmidt & Bender, and Zeiss. I don't think you will find too many complaints about quality and useablility with any of the 4, and unlike huskamaw they all have various configerations, for your needs.
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This post copied and pasted from John Barsness from another website. I'm not saying it's gospel, but he probably knows more on optics origins than anyone on this site. Take it as you will. http://ww w.opticstalk.com/leupold-lenses_topic17486_page2.html
There is nothing magic about Schott glass, it is just a very good type of optical glass. As a matter of fact there is a Schott glass factory in China. As a matter of fact some Chinese optics are very fine. Look through a Zen Ray or Hawke ED binocular and you'll find out.
Leupold does make the tubes and most other parts of its scopes in Oregon. The binoculars and spotting scopes are made in various places Asia. I don't know of any "American" optics company that makes it's own lenses anymore, though Burris might. But I believe the last American lens factory closed a while back.
Nightforce scopes are not made in the USA. They are made in a top factory in Japan and then assembled in Idaho. That's why the 2007 NF on my 6.5-06 says "Made In Japan" on the underside.
Leupold will only say that it get's lenses from "various sources." This probably includes Japan, Korea and China, and may even include the Phillipines and perhaps the Czech Republic--where a lot of glass that's used in many Euro-optics is made. And some optics that many people assume are all-European have Japanese glass. Minox optics are designed in Germany but made in Japan, and one of the other "name" German-Austrian companies has had its binoculars made in Japan for several years now. They are just finally assembled in Europe. Zeiss conquest scopes are not made in Germany, or at least most of each scope isn't. Only the erector tube and it's lenses are made in Germany. The other (main) lenses are made in the Czech Republic, along with the tube, turrets, etc. Then all the parts are shipped to the U.S. and assembled here.
It is a world economy.
No I haven't. Leupold never makes my short list for a scope. They want way too much money for the name on the box. My last scope was a Sightron Big Sky. I believe both Canada and the US are trying to clarify the country of origin issue. It would be good if they have been forced to say where it was assembled and where the parts came from.
It is realy too bad that companies do not have and promote made in North America policies. I am sure that China and other asian countries are very competent, at all facets of manufacturing, including optics. The problem is that the North American
corporations, would like nothing more than for us to feel loyal, while they outsource
everything that they can sending our money to places where it does nothing for jobs,
and the overall economy here or in the US. Unfortunatly every dollar we send to asia etc
is a dollar that will probably never come home.
corporations, would like nothing more than for us to feel loyal, while they outsource
everything that they can sending our money to places where it does nothing for jobs,
and the overall economy here or in the US. Unfortunatly every dollar we send to asia etc
is a dollar that will probably never come home.
