Huskemaw optics and the Best of the west clowns

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I enjoy most of the outdoor and huntimg programs that I watch. I understand that they have an obligation to promote their sponsors and their products. After watching a few episodes of "the best of the west" I could not get over the non stop hyping of the Huskemaw optics. In addition to the over hyping of an extreamly overpriced range of optics they seem to promote hunters with very limited shooting backgrounds taking long range ( and in my opinion unethical ) shots at animals.
This is by far the worst show currently on the wild TV line up that I have seen. I was wondering if anyone has watched these episodes and what your thoughts are on the program...maybe it is just me who thinks these guys are a bunch of clowns
 
One thing I have learned from long range shooting, is that hunters who would turn their noses up at hunting with a 30-30 at two hundred yards, think that a 308 is capable at 1000 yards given the right optics. Insert your favourite cartridge where applicable.
Unfortunately you have to add the average ethics of todays hunter, not to mention skill.
I personally dont like tracking wounded animals, bleeding out from a small hole or I would take up bow hunting.
Not to slight bow hunters, Bow hunting at least creates a larger hemoraging wound channel than a gun does. You just don't see bow hunters taking ridiculous range type shots on game as often as you do rifle hunters.
It would seem that money buys skill, and we know that is just not true. It is the man that makes the rifle not the other way around.
 
I like the show...they do a lot of elk, sheep, antelope and mule deer hunting. Don't see enough of that. John Porter definitely knows a thing or two about sheep. Love the horseback hunts he does.
 
Why is it they can NEVER find an animal at 100 yards...Maybe they should hone their hunting and calling skills...:)
 
blargon said:
Why is it they can NEVER find an animal at 100 yards...Maybe they should hone their hunting and calling skills...:)
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Likely because they never hunt in Ontario ;) Definitely no skill required to head deep into the mountains with a packstring to bighorns.....
 
When the program first came out on Wild TV, I watched a few episodes, but I haven't watched the program in quite some time. However, I am reminded of the program several times each year, when I see someone show up at the range with a new Huskemaw scope. Unfortunately, most of those people don't seem to be able to shoot anywhere near as well as the people on the program are shown to do. In fact, of the better shooters that shooter regularly at our local range, I haven't seen any of them using a Huskemaw.
 
I'd agree....most of the serious long range hunters I know don't bother with local ranges. Shooting off the bench at short ranges is great for developing the rudimentary long-range hunting skills but to truly become proficient you have to grow wings and leave the nest of the local range. Likely why you don't see many there.
 
If I remember right, the Fort Mac range is 500 yards. That's not exactly long range, but is a darn sight better than most.
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It's currently 500 meters, and given our terrain, and the lack of suitable places to shoot long distance, most of the better shooters, do shoot at our range. They are usually the people that I see at sunrise, and are gone by the time the rest of the people start to appear.

There are a fair number of Huskemaw scopes appearing at our range, they just don't seem to be used by the more proficient shooters. They seem to be the optics of choice for the people that want to shoot longer distances, but don't want to commit the time to learning, and practicing.
 
Dogleg said:
If I remember right, the Fort Mac range is 500 yards. That's not exactly long range, but is a darn sight better than most.
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Wasn't criticizing the range at all...it's an awesome one. Just commenting on how the majority of long-range hunters I know aren't "range" guys.
 
stubblejumper said:
There are a fair number of Huskemaw scopes appearing at our range, they just don't seem to be used by the more proficient shooters. They seem to be the optics of choice for the people that want to shoot longer distances, but don't want to commit the time to learning, and practicing.
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Weird they are coming to the range but aren't interested in becoming more proficient...hmmmmm
 
Weird they are coming to the range but aren't interested in becoming more proficient...hmmmmm
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Oh they would like to be proficient shooters, but after watching the television programs, many feel that if they buy a Huskemaw, and a wind meter, they don't need to practice, the equipment will do it all for them. They generally show up at the range to sight in, and then again a time or two just before the hunting season opens, but they certainly don't practice on a regular basis.
 
stubblejumper said:
Oh they obviously want to be proficient shooters, but after watching the television programs, many feel that if they buy a Huskemay, and a wind meter, they don't need to practise, the equipment will do it all for them..
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LOL...perhaps it's that certain "element" at ranges that keeps some away. I know that's why I don't bother with them any more. Sad, but those few nosy "experts" that are in everyone's business and judging them at every shot really do drive people away. Sad. I work with many budding long-range shooters away from the range culture and they sure seem eager to learn. Funny our experiences are so different.
 
LOL...perhaps it's that certain "element" at ranges that keeps some away. I know that's why I don't bother with them any more. Sad, but those few nosy "experts" that are in everyone's business and judging them at every shot really do drive people away. Sad. I work with many budding long-range shooters away from the range culture and they sure seem eager to learn. Funny our experiences are so different.
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Given that our membership was over 2100 and is rising every year, there can't be too many shooters in the area, that are avoiding our range. As well ,there certainly are a good number of shooters that are willing to learn, and several, that are becoming quite proficient. For some reason, those just aren't the shooters that are choosing Huskemaw optics.
 
For the 1500.00 price of a Huskemaw I would sooner choose Swarovski, Zeiss, or Nightforce....lot of reviews saying they (Huskemaw) compare more favourably with scopes priced in the 800.00 range.....for the show, they may well be clowns but it is still entertaining.
 
The shortage of long range rifle ranges is a definite problem in our area. That leads to a lot of theory, and not much practice at longer ranges. A few manifistations of that are blank looks when the topic of wind comes up and desperately clinging to the belief that tiny 100 yards groups equals pin point placement at longer ranges. Then there's believing that a calculated drop chart is going to necessarily match reality. How about believing that low ES on a chrony is proof of low vertical error at distance.

I can see why some people will cling to their theory/fantasy, doubting it would cause their world to collapse around them. Any product that can be seen as a short cut will appeal to this group.
 
Dogleg said:
Any product that can be seen as a short cut will appeal to this group.
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We've had products appeal to that group since the first centrefire rifle was invented. The fact is that they can be a useful tool to those that properly use them and there will always be a group that don't. But to paint with one brush as some seem to do is ludicrous.
 
The shortage of long range rifle ranges is a definite problem in our area. That leads to a lot of theory, and not much practice at longer ranges. A few manifistations of that are blank looks when the topic of wind comes up and desperately clinging to the belief that tiny 100 yards groups equals pin point placement at longer ranges. Then there's believing that a calculated drop chart is going to necessarily match reality. How about believing that low ES on a chrony is proof of low vertical error at distance.
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It's the same in my area, but most of the blank looks arise when all the calculations are done,the trigger is pulled, and the point of impact doesn't match where the calculations predicted it should be. Some of these people are so dependent on the equipment, and they have so little actual shooting experience, that they become totally lost, when that happens.
 
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