remember they were on that TV show. they sure looked good until you got one. Had a friend order one, not even a supporting document with the scope in the box, no instructions, warranty card, owner's guide etc. I put it next to one of my Vortex scopes and I couldn't understand the hype about em. They weren't any brighter but they sure cost a lot more. A year later and he is still waiting for the data info for his chronographed load... spend your money on somthing else.