Husqvarna Model 648 - where can I learn more?

[Win/64]

go to this thread, you'll find the difference between the actions / models by HVA; http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=247277&highlight=hva

One of the differences between the M94/96/38 and the FN made M98 is that the M94/96/38 is a small ring, just like the others M93/M95, designed before the coming of higher pressure rounds (the 7.92X57JS or 8X57JS the forecomer of all high pressure rounds, wich was totally redesigned in 1905 and brang the M98 large ring - the pressure of the round was raised from about 47 000 PSI to 57 000 PSI MAP).
The later FN M98 "H" type were re-designed when NATO wanted to find a new round wich will achieve the higher velocities and pressure or equal the military loads of the time in a shorter case with new powders. Most of these experimental rounds were averaged at 62 000 to 67 000 PSI (proof loads) and in 1952, when they finally set (under U.S. pressure to adopt it) on the 7.62X51, they also set the "working" pressure back to 50 000 PSI. But Winchester introduced the .308 Win, wich have a MAP of 60 000 PSI.
The FN H type was widely used, in it's commercial form, to handle the fury of the then top of the notch pressure wise Weatherby Magnums (the first wave, anyways).
All later designs from HVA (namely 1640 and 1900) were also made for the higher end of modern pressure range.

Good post Baribal. Just thought I would add that the 1900 was a push feed action and a completely new design for Husqvarna.

 

[Noel]

I had been lusting for another Husky 146 ever since I sold my first one in a moment of weakness. Check out these two:
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info_2.php?products_id=473&osCsid=9c30eebd62bd3d6efe9ce336d7a2694b
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info_2.php?products_id=559&osCsid=9c30eebd62bd3d6efe9ce336d7a2694b
These two have the nicest wood I have seen on a Husky 146 or 648. A bit on the pricey side. Trade Ex is 1/2 to 2/3rds these guys if you aren't worried about pristine condition.

The day I was going to call there to buy one or the other depending on the live description they listed an old Mauser I ended up buying instead....1/2 octagon and full rib with a fancy floorplate and trigger guard for the same price, how could I resist.

 

[Win/64]

Sometimes TradeEx gets some really nice ones. But you have to watch a lot of them have been drilled for sidemounts. And other bubba things. It breaks my heart to have to sell my 1900 but I find myself getting away from rifles and solely into shotguns.

I had been lusting for another Husky 146 ever since I sold my first one in a moment of weakness. Check out these two:
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info_2.php?products_id=473&osCsid=9c30eebd62bd3d6efe9ce336d7a2694b
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info_2.php?products_id=559&osCsid=9c30eebd62bd3d6efe9ce336d7a2694b
These two have the nicest wood I have seen on a Husky 146 or 648. A bit on the pricey side. Trade Ex is 1/2 to 2/3rds these guys if you aren't worried about pristine condition.

The day I was going to call there to buy one or the other depending on the live description they listed an old Mauser I ended up buying instead....1/2 octagon and full rib with a fancy floorplate and trigger guard for the same price, how could I resist.

 

[Noel]

I totally agree with you. Have been talking back and forth with Anthony quite a bit. This is not to steer anyone away from his shop, I highly recommend him. They are just examples of how nice they have been.

Going solely into shotguns!? You'll be back! lol

 

[Baribal]

Well,
Acutally there are two ways to look at HVAs;
The ones from the first import wave (1950-1970 new guns), wich usually are in pretty good shape; the problem being the variety. It seems that the taste of the time was quite "straight". Not many fancy rifles and no fancy caliber neither...

Then, you have the second wave, the one Trade Ex is having a hand on; most of the time, these were "utility" guns a little like our own Lee-Enfield and Ross. The difference being that in Sweden, they got an early access to the good old reliable civilian version of their military action. The good point with these guns is that civilian guns are rarely shot out, unlike their military couterparts.
Then, to get the better ones, one should not be afraid of buying the most expensive ones. If one is looking at the bargain gun, he will have to dig in bargain bin, were we all know, treasures are rarely found.

Another point of interest is that before the mid '50s, '60s, the big supply of ex-military guns originating from the Commonwealth brang very cheap guns and ordinary people were mostly hunting for subsitence and needed those cheap guns. Then came the late '60s where hunting became more kind of "democratic" hobby. Before that, the high end guns were the exclusivity of rich people (mostly originating from America (U.S.) and Great-Britain), who were members of prestigious hunting and fishing clubs. Recreational hunting became popular in the late "60s, early '70s, and we can find very good quality guns wich were a big spent for the mass. These were highly prized by their owners and are the ones we can find in very good shape, somtimes at bargain prices. Funily, it's quite the same for shotguns... rare are the high end exemples from the era before late '60s....
Win/64, I'm sure you'll get back to us soon (as I personally did). I now use my doubles on grouse, hunting with my 4 legged buddy, and the rest of the time, I punch holes in whatever the season permits me...

 

[Baribal]

Btw

http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info_2.php?products_id=559&osCsid=9c30eebd62bd3d6efe9ce336d7a2694b

This rifle is not a M648, in any ways. The serial no. 282XX makes it a 1940 rifle, before the 640 were introduced (1944). Even the caliber is wrong for the model. 648 is a 8X57JS while this particular rifle is a M146 (9.3X57, FN M98, "C" type). Even the stock is not from a 640 series. The 640 used a "broad" fore end (or beavertailed), while the 46, 146 and 246 used the Lightweight style.

 

[Win/64]

Then, you have the second wave, the one Trade Ex is having a hand on; most of the time, these were "utility" guns a little like our own Lee-Enfield and Ross. The difference being that in Sweden, they got an early access to the good old reliable civilian version of their military action. The good point with these guns is that civilian guns are rarely shot out, unlike their military couterparts.
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I wonder how many Swedish Military rifles were actually shot out? Most of the ones I have seen have most of there wear on the butt plate. Due to to much wall leaning.

 

[Baribal]

Actually, I was not referring specifically to the Swedish military Mauser. But if you look at some of their Remington RBs... (wich was the kind of supply they could get in the 1927 era of the introduction of the model 46). The Swedes also tend to be really conservative, in the strict meaning of the word, so, getting a M94/96 while it was still in service, must have been a tough job (except for the civilian marksmanship who got access to early appearance of what we now called the Commercial M96 (solid wall) as a forerunner of the CG63...).

BTW, another point is that HVA did not make actions until 1941... That's one reason why they used the FN actions, because the CG M94/96 were only available in so small qtys...