I am moving to Russia. No, not really, but!
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- North Of The DMZ (US border)
So they can own a full auto MG 08 ?
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Yes, I know, they can have 10 round mags, Saigas, GSG-5 etc, but the 100 year old rule is what makes their laws different from Canadian in principle. See, here it is 1897, there it's 100 years ago today, which means that tomorrow there will be another gun becoming legal to own w/o a license.
They actually have more freedom than even in the US!
They actually have more freedom than even in the US!
The Tiger wasn't banned because it looked mean ,it was the AK DNA that made it "evil".
Here is one to get you through until 2011. legal now in Russia
Actually I am not sure about the knife. They have some strange size restrictions there.
Here is one to get you through until 2011. legal now in Russia
Actually I am not sure about the knife. They have some strange size restrictions there.
Adopted March 29, 1911 by US Army. Not that that does me any good
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Two points:
They can have ANY mag, but they can load only 10 rounds...
So, if you have semi-auto AK with 30 round mag, you're OK as long as you don't load more than 10 rounds.100 years rule don't apply to any gun that is officially currently adopted by Russian army. So they can't buy antique Mossin-Nagant, AK, Nagant revolver, etc.
Oh, that's so fine by me! There is plenty of things to be owned in the 100 year old bracket!
I am still not sure if the 100 year old full auto is legal there, but even if not, that's hell of a lot of opportunities to own things!
I am still not sure if the 100 year old full auto is legal there, but even if not, that's hell of a lot of opportunities to own things!
You just need good russian woman to pull the plow, shade in summer, warmth in winter...
The women are beautiful, the food is great, the booze and smokes are cheap and the taxes are low.
However the services including heath care suck and so does the government.
- Location
- Algoma region
Yes bring back a crate of Krinka rifles please!!!!
Even if I seriously wanted to go to Russia for the sake of antique possession, they would be impossible to export. That country strictly prohibited export of any item more than 100 years old, whether it's a book, glassware, jewelry or firearms.
To export anything one must obtain a permit from the Ministry of Culture and I was told that it is virtually unobtainable. It is very hard to justify a need for the Ministry, which is very reluctant to approve any permits.
i have lived in russia for some time,,
the gun laws are actualy very strict and owning guns can be an exspencive business.
also posessing a gun when you are not permitted to own one is punished by several 1000snd $ fined and prison,
however....... bribery is a fine system to avoid being jailed..
also, if you have good friends or money you can get all different classes of licence , allowing you to obtain silenced machine guns and machine pistols for personel protection,
generaly handguns are out of reach to legally own for the normal person , so most people like to buy air pistols to shoot , for gun shooting,
and for defence they like to use rubber ball pistols, some firing rounds as large as 18mm.. they are rubber with a steel or lead weight inside, smaller are 9 or 8mm guns that are based off typical semiauto pistols , like the tt33 and makarov..
these guns can then for a small price, 50 or 60 $ be converted back to shooting normal ammunition.. which is common in russia for the poorer person who will desire him self a pistol
becasue murders are so high in the country there is some need to allow people who are not armed private guards , rich businessmen or police to have a pistol for prection when they are on the move,
private investigators, reporters and writers and other jobs where there is a chance or attack can obtain gun licences but only for lower power pistols, semiautos in small calibers.. 6.35 browing , 5.45x17, .22 lr , and revolvers in 9mm makarov and 9mm parabellum are allowed for these people.
these guns are be bare basic in defence and dont even have much effect on heavy cloths in the winter if the attacker is a large sort!!!
normal people cant have these guns......
the rubber bullet and tear gas guns are not very effective in the winter becasue of the heavy clothing worne in some areas and the small 9 and 8mm rounds and the fact that professional thugs who are planning to kill you are sometimes very fit as martial sport is so popular as is weight training, so the only non lethal guns that will put even a large man down are the 18mm guns , but then there is only 2 or 4 shots and no more..
no however pistols are owned by a few people, and these few own many and own them legally,
ofcorse one can also obtain a target pistol for target shooting in a club,
in the southern areas , dagestan, chechnya, ossitia , ingushettia .,. ect ect ,, basicaly the north caucasus region and also some other isolated areas like tuva and some parts of siberia, guns are owned illegallly in large numbers,
hunting guns are very common in rural russia and the most popular types are 16 guage shotguns and more recently 12 ga, as well as the sks rifle is very popular, much more than the nagant.. andl 32 guage for small game and the 410 and such.. saiga shotgun are very popular , but nobody likes the .410 saiga, everyone i met who owned one or shot one said it was a silly toy,
the rich guys have amazing custom made hunting rifles, some are combinations of a semiauto shotgun and semiauto .22 rifle, or bolt action rifle, with gold and engraving and such, or other exsotic strange guns, like a semiauto 20 gauge shotgun with the tube magazine in the but!! like on the old winchester.22s!!!!
also there is some cheap mode defence 20 and 12 guage shotguns and shot pistols , long barreled pistols with a fixed stock looking like a stocked flair gun , things like that for poor folks to protect their home..
most people in the rural area will have a shotgun and an sks though..
the normal worker can afford these and they are strong and reliable and everybody has them..
in the more unstable places,
i lived in dagestan, which is the porrest and least developed part of russia, and i guess it must also have the most crime,, the population was dominated by the native ethnic groups of the area not the russians who were under 10% ,, so things didnt quite run are maybe things would in moscow,
there owning a gun , assult rifle or pistol or both, or many of both was normal and standard,.
it was illegal but many people got permits from the police due to connections and others just had them anyway...
ak47 was the standard gun and the makarov and tt 33 the standard pistols, although lugers , cz75's , and cz57,, ppks,, 1900 brownings, gp35s, stechkin machine pistols and german p38s were all also common but these guns and others, commanded higher prces , due to deman and also there is some collectors as well,
the stechkin , because of the automatic mode was popular,
a good percent of man carried a pistol with them and also many have guns in the car, , i guess they were stopped by the russians from carring a sword so in the modern area the pistol took its place for resolving disputes,
for the real poor young yous who couldnt affort 100$ for a makarov they had a knife...
also there was maky illegal workshops making pistols in the republic, some were copies of the makarov or tt33 and some were unique!! . these sold for less than issue makarovs as they were not a nicely made modlty, also north korean and chinese tt33s and makarovs were common and also much cheaper than russian and european made guns..
general the tt33 was called the shooting hammer as if it failed you could beat somebody with it, also they didnt like the fact that it was single action, so it a fight you would be bested by somebody with a makarov because of the double action function..
so it was a tossup , the tt33 shot a stronger round , but it was slower, . the nagant revolvers were universally disliked, as they were clumsy and slow to reload and weak..
the most like pistol that was not exspencive, ( a stechkin on new condition with a stock and magazines sold for 1500-2000$ because of demand) was the cz75 these had a lot of shots and were a 9mm para and a double action.. and were well made.
i guess as the newere 9x21 russian service pistols and 9x19 pistols become more common they will filter down to these areas and become more popular, as the 9x21 is a powerful round and it is chaimbered in ugly but well designed pistols,
anyway , that was my experience, also the military and police are very loose with guns are exsplocives lending these or giving them to freinds, like grenades and conficated guns and such :O..
hope some of this is helpful........
the gun laws are actualy very strict and owning guns can be an exspencive business.
also posessing a gun when you are not permitted to own one is punished by several 1000snd $ fined and prison,
however....... bribery is a fine system to avoid being jailed..
also, if you have good friends or money you can get all different classes of licence , allowing you to obtain silenced machine guns and machine pistols for personel protection,
generaly handguns are out of reach to legally own for the normal person , so most people like to buy air pistols to shoot , for gun shooting,
and for defence they like to use rubber ball pistols, some firing rounds as large as 18mm.. they are rubber with a steel or lead weight inside, smaller are 9 or 8mm guns that are based off typical semiauto pistols , like the tt33 and makarov..
these guns can then for a small price, 50 or 60 $ be converted back to shooting normal ammunition.. which is common in russia for the poorer person who will desire him self a pistol
becasue murders are so high in the country there is some need to allow people who are not armed private guards , rich businessmen or police to have a pistol for prection when they are on the move,
private investigators, reporters and writers and other jobs where there is a chance or attack can obtain gun licences but only for lower power pistols, semiautos in small calibers.. 6.35 browing , 5.45x17, .22 lr , and revolvers in 9mm makarov and 9mm parabellum are allowed for these people.
these guns are be bare basic in defence and dont even have much effect on heavy cloths in the winter if the attacker is a large sort!!!
normal people cant have these guns......
the rubber bullet and tear gas guns are not very effective in the winter becasue of the heavy clothing worne in some areas and the small 9 and 8mm rounds and the fact that professional thugs who are planning to kill you are sometimes very fit as martial sport is so popular as is weight training, so the only non lethal guns that will put even a large man down are the 18mm guns , but then there is only 2 or 4 shots and no more..
no however pistols are owned by a few people, and these few own many and own them legally,
ofcorse one can also obtain a target pistol for target shooting in a club,
in the southern areas , dagestan, chechnya, ossitia , ingushettia .,. ect ect ,, basicaly the north caucasus region and also some other isolated areas like tuva and some parts of siberia, guns are owned illegallly in large numbers,
hunting guns are very common in rural russia and the most popular types are 16 guage shotguns and more recently 12 ga, as well as the sks rifle is very popular, much more than the nagant.. andl 32 guage for small game and the 410 and such.. saiga shotgun are very popular , but nobody likes the .410 saiga, everyone i met who owned one or shot one said it was a silly toy,
the rich guys have amazing custom made hunting rifles, some are combinations of a semiauto shotgun and semiauto .22 rifle, or bolt action rifle, with gold and engraving and such, or other exsotic strange guns, like a semiauto 20 gauge shotgun with the tube magazine in the but!! like on the old winchester.22s!!!!
also there is some cheap mode defence 20 and 12 guage shotguns and shot pistols , long barreled pistols with a fixed stock looking like a stocked flair gun , things like that for poor folks to protect their home..
most people in the rural area will have a shotgun and an sks though..
the normal worker can afford these and they are strong and reliable and everybody has them..
in the more unstable places,
i lived in dagestan, which is the porrest and least developed part of russia, and i guess it must also have the most crime,, the population was dominated by the native ethnic groups of the area not the russians who were under 10% ,, so things didnt quite run are maybe things would in moscow,
there owning a gun , assult rifle or pistol or both, or many of both was normal and standard,.
it was illegal but many people got permits from the police due to connections and others just had them anyway...
ak47 was the standard gun and the makarov and tt 33 the standard pistols, although lugers , cz75's , and cz57,, ppks,, 1900 brownings, gp35s, stechkin machine pistols and german p38s were all also common but these guns and others, commanded higher prces , due to deman and also there is some collectors as well,
the stechkin , because of the automatic mode was popular,
a good percent of man carried a pistol with them and also many have guns in the car, , i guess they were stopped by the russians from carring a sword so in the modern area the pistol took its place for resolving disputes,
for the real poor young yous who couldnt affort 100$ for a makarov they had a knife...
also there was maky illegal workshops making pistols in the republic, some were copies of the makarov or tt33 and some were unique!! . these sold for less than issue makarovs as they were not a nicely made modlty, also north korean and chinese tt33s and makarovs were common and also much cheaper than russian and european made guns..
general the tt33 was called the shooting hammer as if it failed you could beat somebody with it, also they didnt like the fact that it was single action, so it a fight you would be bested by somebody with a makarov because of the double action function..
so it was a tossup , the tt33 shot a stronger round , but it was slower, . the nagant revolvers were universally disliked, as they were clumsy and slow to reload and weak..
the most like pistol that was not exspencive, ( a stechkin on new condition with a stock and magazines sold for 1500-2000$ because of demand) was the cz75 these had a lot of shots and were a 9mm para and a double action.. and were well made.
i guess as the newere 9x21 russian service pistols and 9x19 pistols become more common they will filter down to these areas and become more popular, as the 9x21 is a powerful round and it is chaimbered in ugly but well designed pistols,
anyway , that was my experience, also the military and police are very loose with guns are exsplocives lending these or giving them to freinds, like grenades and conficated guns and such :O..
hope some of this is helpful........
Dagestan! I love the Caucasus. So much history and the geology is good for gold as well.
On a property visit to the south, I saw a castle nearby and the ruins of a small Roman bath. You could still see the lead piping they used to feed water to the bath. Fascinating region.
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On a property visit to the south, I saw a castle nearby and the ruins of a small Roman bath. You could still see the lead piping they used to feed water to the bath. Fascinating region.
Добро пожаловать в Канаду и к этому форуму.
