I am stuck on my PAL application. It's been 11 months.

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Hello everyone, for the past few months my license application has been stuck at the Ontario CFO's office for some time now and Iv'e been sent a letter basically saying they want my health records and a bunch of other stuff for my gun license application but the doctor Ive been seeing has retired this month, I was thinking of getting a mental assessment done and just mailing it back to them or something but I'm having trouble finding a place willing to do one for a gun license application.


One doctor I spoke to when I went into a walk in clinic told me " yeah nobody is going to sign this if they don't know you, they would be putting their careers on the line etc."

Since I have nowhere else to turn I thought I'd might look for advice here, if they want your medical records etc but you don't have a doctor, or one willing to sign the paperwork, what can you do?
 
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It's been awhile since I did mine, but I don't recall them asking for medical records.

I just looked at this form:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/form-formulaire/pdfs/5592-eng.pdf

and didn't see anywhere that they asked for medical info except for:

16. d) During the past five (5) years, have you threatened or attempted suicide, or have you suffered from or been diagnosed or treated by
a medical practitioner for: depression; alcohol, drug or substance abuse;behavioural problems; or emotional problems?

You want to talk about waiting, try getting a range approved :(
 
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I was diagnosed with a mental disability by a social worker back in high school, so that must have something to do with it.


The title of the letter they sent me was: "Consent for Disclosure of Medical Information to a Chief Firearms Officer to Assess Eligibility for a Firearms License."
 
Mmm, the problem with that is I have no idea where the guy went, he moved somewhere far far away.


On top of that I only saw the guy maybe once a year, he doesn't really have any records.


As for the diagnosis, I have no idea. They must have had someone in the system with a degree in psychology or something do it.

I never even knew until they told me when I called to check up on my license status.
 
ultra_bright said:
Mmm, the problem with that is I have no idea where the guy went, he moved somewhere far far away.


On top of that I only saw the guy maybe once a year, he doesn't really have any records.


As for the diagnosis, I have no idea. They must have had someone in the system with a degree in psychology or something do it.

I never even knew until they told me when I called to check up on my license status.
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Check with the OMA (Ontario Medical Association)...if he was a doctor practising in Ontario up until last year, they will have some info on him and can likely advise as to the disposition of your records...also check with Ministry of Health
 
Your medical records are yours. All you have to do is request them and pay the fee to copy them. Your doctor may have retired but your records will have been sent to either thee doctor taking over his practice or a place that does nothing but stores and files medical records for dr. offices. Just track them down. I would think your new dr. could advise you on how to do this. I can understand he might not feel comfortable signing off on your lic. if he doesn't know you well enough but he can steer you in the right direction... Good luck! A hobby can only help :)
 
Your story stinks.
Whatever you've left out, is why they want your records. I'm betting you already know that.

"moved somewhere far far away"
"someone with a degree or something"

You can do better than that, c'mon...

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9x19p said:
Your story stinks.
Whatever you've left out, is why they want your records. I'm betting you already know that.

"moved somewhere far far away"
"someone with a degree or something"

You can do better than that, c'mon...

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The "far, far away" sent up flags for me as well. Something is fishy here...
 
Well for one thing he didn't know me well enough to sign off on my license, also didn't know I was diagnosed with anything at all, and I couldn't get him the information on the diagnosis when he asked me.

I only seen him once every other year to once a year, and Ive only seen him three times.
 
I suffer from depression. I had to go to the doctor and asked her to write a letter saying I'm fit to own firearms and such. U can go to a clinic and ask for a mental health assement. It will cost u around 50 to 100 bucks to have the letter written.
 
How old are you ? If you were diagnosed with something in high school , I would think that , if it were five or more years ago , they wouldn't care . Also , aren't records of that type confidential ? I'd be asking the CFO why they were requiring this of me .
Also , if you MD just moved last month , the clinic he left would be the place to ask for your records .
This is just odd .
 
Fyffer said:
I suffer from depression. I had to go to the doctor and asked her to write a letter saying I'm fit to own firearms and such. U can go to a clinic and ask for a mental health assement. It will cost u around 50 to 100 bucks to have the letter written.
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Yeah that's kinda what I'm trying to do.

Any problems I had were a while ago in the past, mostly due to stress and personal issues. Never been arrested or have a criminal record, never tried to kill myself or harm anyone but I was a bit depressed for a while before I left highschool.

I've been looking but I can't find any clinics that deal with mental assessments around here, most of them are strictly walk in clinics, whats strange is that I've called about 5 different physiatrists and some say they don't do assessments/no open spots, others just do therapy and referred me elsewhere.

They are specifically asking for more info on the my mental disability though, since it's something that I've haven't had any issues at all with I'm kinda stuck.


Also I'm 19 years of age currently, for anyone wanting to know.
 
Oh my,can you imagine a teenager in high school being confused ,stressed and dealing with peer pressure while going through a bout of puberty ?

I`m surprised more kids don`t go nuts at that age, glad I`m done with that stage of life !

Social workers........what`s needed for that ,grade 12 GED !!

Good luck to you ,hope things work out !

Paul T
 
Go talk to whoever took over the Doc's practice. Or contact the Ministry of Health. Your medical records are there, but getting 'em will cost you. Daft thing when it costs to get your property though.
Mind you, before you do anything, you need to ask the CPFO why they want 'em. Getting a metal assessment done will put a big red flag up.
 
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