Blackthorne said:
G17
Sandbaged (indoors) at 10 yrds 3 rounds in the same hole 2 under 3/4 inch. 3/4 inch total grouping.
Barrel has about 5000 rounds through it.
Gun is more accurate than I will ever be, and that is what counts.
That's pretty good for a Glock, but remember you are shooting from a sandbag. Real life with a Glock is slightly more difficult I find.
I have owned just about one of everything there is to own, including Glocks (I have several going on the EE forum tonight most likely), and frankly, I am torn to shreds here. Torn to shreds.
I have a love/hate relationship going with most of my guns, but especially the Glocks, Rugers, Sigs and Berettas. Frankly I have not tried the smaller HK's and others yet, although they are next on my list. Small guns with long barrels... making them silly looking but legal in Canada. All I need to do is figure out a way to swap out my barrels when stateside. Perhaps I will keep a short barrel at each of my relative's homes. Dunno.
Anyway... to the point. Sandbagging is one thing. Shooting Weaver, Freehand, Isoceles, etc., is quite another, especially when you may have return fire or need to be moving. Then, as I understand it, it boils down to target acquisition, etc. With the Glock, the first shot may be accurate, but unless you are well practiced and have strong and steady arms you have some issues to deal with due to the weight and balance of the gun. At least that is what I find. Glocks amplify recoil and are 'flippy' (where did I hear that?). The tradeoff is weight. Same as the downside. So... I have a love hate relationship.
I find that I have pretty much the same results from all of my 'self defense' type guns in terms of target acquisition and so on. A good set of combat sights is a must. If target shooting only then a good set of target sights is a must and I go for either Bomar or Heinie's. I have a Glock 35 that had the slide milled for Bomars to lie shallower and they are amazing for IPSC, etc. Target acquisition and accuracy is outstanding. All of my other Glocks have factory installed Tritium night sights.
So, just remember, sandbag versus freehand are different kettles of fish entirely. We shot a S&W 52-2 yesterday at 25M off a sandbag - ten rounds - four holes. 1.5 inch group. Amazing. Freehand? Woooooah. Entirely different story.
Gotta love them Glocks though. Reliability - life depending reliability? So far my vote goes to Glock.
If you are looking for the Glock armourer manuals try this link:
http://www.stevespages.com/page7b.htm
But be warned that Glock work is not for the faint of heart. I self trained for the 1911 in a couple of weeks and can tune one to my complete satisfaction; but for a Glock I wouldn't touch it beyond basic cleaning; all else goes to my local armourer (certified armourer BTW - not self proclaimed - show me the papers if my life depends on it!).
The Sig P226 is also very nice and I understand it was one of the top contenders for the US Armed Forces official sidearm and would have been chosen except they were not willing to drop their price and sacrifice quality in order to make a buck. Beretta took the contract there... and I am still trying to figure out why the idiots went with 9mm when they are restricted to hardball ammo. Silly.
Best of luck with your Glock and enjoy! I have owned several and am keeping a G17 9mm and a G22 .45 - the rest are going up on EE tonight.
Torontogunguy
