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I'm looking at buying a new, all around use handgun, and I cant decide between 3 guns that really stand out to me.
I'd like to know whatever you can tell me about the guns you've used and in comparison to the other what some pros and cons of each are.
so my options are, the Glock 22 gen 4, the Sig Sauer P226 MK25 navy, or the Smith & Wesson M&P45.
 
Are you new to guns? How much money are you planning to spend? You basically have 3 different calibers listed in your choice of guns. 9mm is cheapest, easiest to find and easiest to shoot. .40S&W in the Glock is slightly more expensive (~$0.10 more per round) and the .40 has a snappy recoil that kicks more than the 9. The .45 is the most expensive to shoot. It has the biggest recoil of the 3 but it's not "snappy" like the .40, more like a gentle push. The best thing you should do is try all 3 guns and see how they feel in your hands and how you shoot them at the range. The Smith and Glock are similar polymer guns, the SIG is an entirely different action. The Mk. 25 may have more collector value due to the SEAL connection than the other 2 guns.
Whatever you decide, if you are new at the game, work on your fundamentals with a proper coach and maybe start with 22s first.
Once you develop bad habits in this game, they are very hard to break.
The guns you listed are all very good ones. Can't go wrong with any of them.
 
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I strongly recommend that you get a 9mm. Any of those three pistols come chambered in 9mm (Glock 17, MP9) and are very good quality. The cost of ammo adds up really fast. Two boxes of .45 ACP costs as much as three boxes of 9mm.
 
Glock 22 or a M&P40 and 40-9 conversion barrel. This way you can shoot both 40 and 9 out of the same gun. Otherwise an M&P9 for the ergonomics.
 
Buy the one that fits your hands best. Go to a shop and try 'em on. The one that's right will just feel right. Personally, I find the polymer frames like the Glocks are slippery. Not a big deal though. There are inexpensive slip on, what Pachmayr calls grip gloves that make that go away.
A BNIB Sig "Navy" will have zero collector value. It's just a 226 with an under barrel rail. Calling it a 'Navy" is marketing. The CF uses it too.
 
I would make sure first off you go with the one that fits you the best, grips, sights, ease of use of the firearms components relative to yourself and habits. I assume you are from regina. Go to TNT or wholesale or cabellas and try a whole heap of pistols. I have a sig 226 awesome solid pistol, but a little big for my grip. The glock fit me better( 17 gen 3), my p30L fits perfect. As for your calibres, I would say in my opinion 9mm would be the best all around calibre. I am very bias towards HK products, and Sig in that order. That being said, my glock shoots remarkably well and has a good price point.
 
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I would make sure first off you go with the one that fits you the best, grips, sights, ease of use of the firearms components relative to yourself and habits. I assume you are from regina. Go to TNT or wholesale or cabellas and try a whole heap of pistols. I have a sig 226 awesome solid pistol, but a little big for my grip. The glock fit me better( 17 gen 3), my p30L fits perfect. As for your calibres, I would say in my opinion 9mm would be the best all around calibre. I am very bias towards HK products, and Sig in that order. That being said, my glock shoots remarkably well and has a good price point.
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I hate to be a prick but can you explain or describe what a proper "fit" is??

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My own input is Glock would be my last choice and the 45 acp would my first choice in caliber, it cost more sure but there is a huge fun factor shooting a 45 acp... Just saying... JP.
 
Handguns that fit the best don't always shoot the best. As long as you can manipulate all the controls how well a gun feels has little to do with how well it shoots. Glocks feel blocky in my hand but I can shoot them really well. All of the pistols you mentioned are fine but they're very different, not just in their calibre but in how they handle--even the Glock and M&P, though they're both striker-fired polymer-framed pistols, handle and feel quite differently. What you'll often find in this thread are guys that say to buy they one that they like best, but all of these are good choices. Buy the one that you think you like the best, then if you don't like it, sell it and move on to another. I currently own a P226 in .357SIG, a G22 RTF2 in .40 and an M&P40...I'd have to say I like them all about equally.
 
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Of the three choices, I'd go with the Glock. But that doesn't mean schmick.

Go with what you like. ;)

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One thing to keep in mind, that I don't believe anyone has mentioned yet, is that the Sig is DA/SA. You're first trigger pull will be heavier than your follow up shots, takes a while to get used to depending on how often you shoot. Whereas the M&P and Glock have that consistent trigger pull that you can figure out a lot easier. As for the choice between the 3, that's a little tough. As has been pointed out they're all different calibers, which makes it an even tougher comparison between them. I personally would recommend the Sig 226 with the rail rather than the MK25 and then take the $2-300 in savings and spend it on ammo. I've only ever shot .45 out of 1911 style guns so can't comment on what it would be like out of an M&P, but if you're big on the .45 round I'd pick a nice 1911 instead (everyone should own 1). But if you get one and don't like it, you should be able recoup quite a bit of what you spent as they are all pretty popular guns. However this is all just my opinion, so YMMV
 
Here are some pros and cons of each...from my experience:

SIG P226 Navy 9mm
Cons:
  • More expensive than regular P226R for not many more features
  • High bore axis can emphasize muzzle flip*
  • Long SA trigger reset with standard (i.e. non short-reset trigger)
  • DA to SA transition increases difficulty in learning the pistol
  • Most expensive
  • Complex design
Pros:
  • All metal construction makes for solid feeling pistol with less snappy recoil
  • DA trigger pull is pretty good
  • All controls are easy to reach if you have short hands
  • Excellent factory sights
  • Comfortable to hold
  • Lowest cost ammo

Glock 22 Gen 4
Cons:
  • Light weight and unusual trigger makes it easy for a new shooter to shoot poorly
  • Light weight makes for snappy recoil*
  • Boxy grip bothers some*
  • Ammo cost is higher than 9mm
  • Factory sights bother some*
Pros:
  • Light weight makes for fast-handling
  • Low bore axis means less muzzle flip and more natural pointing
  • Consistent trigger pull shot-to-shot
  • Tactile trigger reset makes it easier to shoot faster
  • Lots of accessories
  • Simple,reliable design
  • Replaceable backstraps to adjust size
  • Ammo cost is less than .45 ACP
  • Least expensive

S&W M&P45
Cons:
  • Factory trigger a little imprecise (although new ones might be better?)*
  • Trigger reset not as good as Glocks
  • High cost of ammo
  • Slightly more complex design than Glock*
  • Comfortable to hold
  • Excellent factory sights
Pros:
  • Steel subframe makes the pistol weigh a bit more than Glock
  • Controls easy to reach
  • Adjustable backstraps
  • Simpler design than P226
  • Inexpensive

*all points listed with an asterisk have not been a problem for me
 
I wouldn't worry too much about recoil or bore axis. The recoil of the .40 in the Glock 22 is not bad at all:
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and even the SIG in .357SIG and .40 S&W is easily controllable as well...9mm would fare even better.

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