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rhshooter said:
Just curious but if you use randomly placed snap caps how do you know if you have a misfire? I would be nervous about an open breach detonation and would force myself to wait the 20 or 30 or 60 seconds recommended wait to see if I have a hang-fire... Is this something to be concerned about?

Jeff
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Wow! It is a 9mm not an 84mm HEAT round. No requirement to wait, if the thing goes "click" when it's supposed to go "bang" carry out the appropriate stoppage drill and keep shooting!

As far as using snap caps, I 100% agree it is a very effective meathod to check for flinching and is handy for practiceing your stoppage drills. However given that it is a Glock17 you shouldn't need to worry about that too much ;)
 
I had the same problem. I went to the Rocket 3.5 trigger and held back...like way back on the taper crimp of my re-loads and bumped up the load a bit. I can now group at 2 inches at twenty five feet with ease and at a rapid shot pace. This is with a standard Glock barrel and lead bullets. It does prefer the jacketed bullets and groups at 6 inches at 25 yards.
 
BCRider said:
Hang fire is also something more worrisome to a flintlock shooter or a cap and ball black powder sort.

When an FTF happens in an IPSC match or during a combat situation you don't see anyone sitting around counting out 20 seconds. If a jam or light strike occurs that slide is being racked back as quickly as the shooter can get that hand up there.
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While I may agree with you to a certain extent I will err on the side of caution and wait out the 20-30 seconds. But, then again, I don't view an outing at the range as a 'combat situation' nor do I believe IPSC is the be all, end all. ;)
 
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misfire said:
While I may agree with you to a certain extent I will err on the side of caution and wait out the 20-30 seconds.
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A guy named "misfire", would have this opinion :p. A hangfire will very likely be the most exciting few seconds of your life, but if you asked how many Nutz, had actually experinced one, with a modern centrefire round, you'd find that it truly is a freak occurance. I doubt it's even a 1 in 10 million round possiblity. If it happens while you are clearing what you thought was a snap cap during this drill, buy a goddam lottomax ticket, that $40,000,000 is yours baby!!!
 
Didn't end up back at the range but hopefully tomorrow. I'll just keep at it, it was just frustrating to visually see better results from a gun I didn't chose but I guess that just means I'll need to get one of everything, at least. lol

I'm going to check out this 25 cent trigger job now...
 
In my opinion, I would not bother doing any modifications to your pistol. I had this same problem with a G22 and just try firing by squeezing th trigger very slowly. You can fix this without spending a dime. (except on ammo)
 
Doesn't seem like anyone is really a fan of the 3.5lb trigger. If around 5.5 is stock for the glock what would other guns typically have? Like a sig or a 1911 of whatever manufacturer.
 
I did all the popular mods on my glock trigger, 4lb firing pin spring, disconnect, and the NY1 trigger spring, ending up stripping it out just leaving the disconnector. For some reason, my stock trigger is much heavier than others measuring at over 8 lbs, which is why I left the disconnector in.

My groups sucked really bad at first, I even posted pictures about it. Now I can hit decent groups at 15-20 yards with a pretty decent pace.. IMO, it just takes practice, a finely tuned 1911 will probably produce way better groups than a glock, or at least mine seems too.

Good luck and keep at it.
 
Here are 2 tricks...
-keep your eyes open when you shoot...
-after the first round.. don't release the trigger... keep squeezing it...
line up on your target and release until the trigger resets then squeeze you will have taken up all the slack at that point...

Glocks are mostly about trigger control...
 
ShaneN. said:
Went to the range tonight and just can't seem to get a nice group with my g17...What do you guys think I should do? I guess it doesn't hurt to change up my combination with this gun a bit to see if I get better results before trying something else in 9mm. But now I know I want a 1911 in .45 too.
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I recommend two accessories for your Glock.

The first is Heinie sights.

The second is a .22LR rimfire conversion kit. Like Advantage Arms, J.A. Ciener, or Tactical Solutions.

You won't regret either purchase.
 
Wendell said:
I recommend two accessories for your Glock.

The first is Heinie sights.

The second is a .22LR rimfire conversion kit. Like Advantage Arms, J.A. Ciener, or Tactical Solutions.

You won't regret either purchase.
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Big +2 from me on the conversion kit. I just sold mine, only because I'm now reloading 9mm and I seem to have gotten over the initial learning curve of the Glock. Without the conversion it would have cost me $100s in factory (or reloaded) ammunition to get that much trigger time. I must have shot 2500 through the conversion.
I can now keep my rounds on an 8" pie-plate at 20m and that seems like a good foundation for future endeavors.

-Grant
 
I once had the exact same problem with all of my Glocks - G17 & G34.

I had done whatever possible [eg. Recoil spring, connector to reduce the trigger pull, polish the internal parts, change the sights] tried to improve my grouping without success. Of course,they all doesn't help.

I had some Master shooter looked at my stance and grip and turn out just fine. But when I shoot my Glocks, it just all over the place. The only time it is more accurate is when I am not moving, just standing at the bay. For competition, it is another story.

Until one day my fellow shooter hands me his CZ Shadow and the heft immediately got my attention. It was heavy[Yes,for a Glock guy, it is a heavy pistol when u first holding it]. However, I've got all double taps with the first 10 rounds. Holy...I then keep trying it and the same night I already made up my mind and ordered my first Shadow the next morning. On the other hand, I sold my G17 & 34 as fast as I can and never looked back.

Glockers please don't get mad. This is a YMMV experience.

Now, I am shooting IPSC and CDP exclusively with Shadows. Yes, I've got 2 now. And most of my fellow IPSC shooters were using Shadows, SV,STI...
The Shadow of course has the good afordable price range than the others.

I have a brief review of the story at my blog below:

http://czsp-01shadowreview.########.com/2009_10_01_archive.html
 
Go to this web site; ###.pistol-training.com. First you'll find great advise about XS sights. Then, go to the drills pages, plenty of terrific FREE exercises to help make things better. There are lots of aftermarket parts for Glock pistols, and the sad truth is that there isn't one of them that will make you a better shooter. The only things that you can do to make yourself a better shooter are 1) get instruction from a professional pistol instructor - there are some quite good ones on the LM and 2) shoot the gun - shoot it every chance you get, get a reloading set up if it'll help you shoot more. It's a Glock, it'll take more shooting than you're ever likely to do with it. You could put 1,000 rounds a month through that pig for the next 5 years and it still won't wear out. You might also want to get an armorers DVD, it'll help you get over that tentative stage re: pulling it apart, that's something you need to know in order to do maintenance on it. FWIW my 2 cents.
 
7.65 Para said:
It's a glock... what did you expect? They are cheap and they work. Accuracy (both practical and mechanical) is not part of a Glock's job description.
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Do you think glocks are the #1 LE firearm worldwide because they're inaccurate? Do you think maybe there was an 'accuracy' check box on the form they used to evaluate potential firearms?

You should tell this guy how inaccurate his glock is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmMEg4y54Dk
 
Glocks are plenty accurate enough. Once you learn to shoot one there is nothing to complain about them.

Taking one apart to the bones only requires a small punch (A Q-tip will do in a pinch) and a flat head screwdriver.

They are really that simple. No DVD required.

Agreed they are not the prettiest things that shoot, nor are the lowers built to any admirable spec. But as earlier posters say: "They just work."

My only real gripe is the stock sights. BUT you CAN still shoot accurately with them.
for me I find the fat three sided line on the rear sight messes with quick target acquisition and sight picture.
 
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