I found 2 lee enfield a locally for $160 for the pair one is missing the mag.

If it were me, I'd sand that stock down asap! It looks like an original stock that a previous owner has "sportered." With careful sanding you might be able to find a top handguard and make it look like new without buying a complete stock. It will never be "factory issue" again with the cut barrel but it will look a lot better!
Here's what an original looked like
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I'm not a gunsmith but I think the flash hider attached to a length of barrel you no longer have on that no5.

Your no. 5 was made in the Royal Ordnance Factory Fazakerly. Here's some info if you care to read about it. http://www.chuckhawks.com/jungle_carbine.htm

As far as the no4, are there any other maker's marks?

I agree with everyone else, you got excellent value for your money!
 
Nelson84 said:
Should I sand down that crappy carved grip and stain it darker? Is this a jungle stock or an after market stock?

Where could I get a new proper stock and can a new muzzle brake be put on?
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Any advice people give should be based on what your intentions are with the rifle... (truck-guns, conversation pieces, refurb'd to original specs)

I'd start with sourcing new furniture for those 2 rifles. Then maybe fixing the barrels on both (back to milsurp specs).

Basically, I'd "restore" them to their original appearance. But that's just me...

:) Congrats on the great scores !
 
Boomer74 said:
Any advice people give should be based on what your intentions are with the rifle... (truck-guns, conversation pieces, refurb'd to original specs)

I'd start with sourcing new furniture for those 2 rifles. Then maybe fixing the barrels on both (back to milsurp specs).

Basically, I'd "restore" them to their original appearance. But that's just me...

:) Congrats on the great scores !
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I want to add that piece of wood on the top of the mk 5 and I think I am going to sand down the stock and stain it darker. I would like to find a flared muzzle. Where do I look to find this stuff?
 
Cdn303 said:
Putting a new flash hidder on is a real PITA.

See how they shoot and use em as meat guns. Just my 0.02
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I removed one from my N0.5 without issue, drive out the 2 pins ( one from either side). And press it off.
I made a clamp from two pieces of thick flat bar. I drilled a hole between the 2 slightly larger than the OD of the barrel, drilled and tapped 2 holes to "clamp' with. Clamped over barrel behind flash hider and knocked it off ( Brass hammer/light taps, put rag inside clamp to not mar barrel finish) after I drove the pins out.
Very easy if you ask me.

Numrich has a flash hider for $35, just make sure you get the real NO.5 one, not the one to convert your NO.4 to a JC....the ID of the two are different.
 
Nelson84 said:
I ordered the flared muzzle for $35 now I have to find the top piece of wood and fasteners.
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That's a flash hider, a one piece integration with the foresight and bayonet lug. The muzzle is at the end of the barrel, inside.

The flash hider doesn't really hide the flash but it does hide much of it from the shooter,. It was intended to protect the shooter's night vision from the excessive flash that results from using the service ammunition designed for a 24.5" barrel when it is used in the No.5's much shorter barrel (18.5".)

Numrich should have the piece of wood you are looking for, at least a reproduction. It's called the upper handguard because it was to protect the hand from a hot barrel when you grasp it there (e.g. for bayonet fighting.) A genuine used part may show up in the EE at any time, especially if you post a WTB ad in Milsurp Parts. A gunshow or old gunshop may be another source.

I had a sporter No.5 with d.i.y. checkering cut in the grip and forestock like that. I was able to sand them out without destroying the lines of the stocks. It depends on how deep the checkering is.

If the receiver hasn't been drilled and tapped for a scope mount and you have the correct parts, (rear sight should be graduated to 800 yards, not 1300 like a No.4) and you do the work the yourself you will have a representative restoration that someone will pay more for than it costs you. Hopefully it will also end up being a good shooter that you may be pleased to just keep for yourself and enjoy, a nice choice to have.

The other one, a No.4, is beyond economical restoration because it would need a new barrel. It has been cut just in front of the foresight, which means it is missing the bayonet lugs. It may still make a good shooter and then as a hunting rifle it will be excellent value for the price you paid.
 
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TheTooner said:
That's a flash hider, a one piece integration with the foresight and bayonet lug. The muzzle is at the end of the barrel, inside.

The flash hider doesn't really hide the flash but it does hide much of it from the shooter,. It was intended to protect the shooter's night vision from the excessive flash that results from using the service ammunition designed for a 24.5" barrel when it is used in the No.5's much shorter barrel (18.5".)

Numrich should have the piece of wood you are looking for, at least a reproduction. It's called the upper handguard because it was to protect the hand from a hot barrel when you grasp it there (e.g. for bayonet fighting.) A genuine used part may show up in the EE at any time, especially if you post a WTB ad in Milsurp Parts. A gunshow or old gunshop may be another source.

I had a sporter No.5 with d.i.y. checkering cut in the grip and forestock like that. I was able to sand them out without destroying the lines of the stocks. It depends on how deep the checkering is.

If the receiver hasn't been drilled and tapped for a scope mount and you have the correct parts, (rear sight should be graduated to 800 yards, not 1300 like a No.4) and you do the work the yourself you will have a representative restoration that someone will pay more for than it costs you. Hopefully it will also end up being a good shooter that you may be pleased to just keep for yourself and enjoy, a nice choice to have.

The other one, a No.4, is beyond economical restoration because it would need a new barrel. It has been cut just in front of the foresight, which means it is missing the bayonet lugs. It may still make a good shooter and then as a hunting rifle it will be excellent value for the price you paid.
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I will just keep the rifles, I will see if I can find the wood piece on numrich.
 
SA85M1 said:
I may have the proper bbl band for you...I'll check.. the #5 certainly deserves a refit....too bad the bbl on the #4 is chopped....
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Good deal. I'm going to try and sand it out but if it looks like crap I think I will order the set from numrich. Numrich is in the USA, can I order a complete stock set it costs $150. Can I bring a stock across the border?
 
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