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triton

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I don't care what anyone else thinks! I was talking with this guy tonight about deer hunting. He hunts farms. I hunt the bush. His gang usually gets 5+ deer. we usually get 3+ deer. He always says. You should hunt with us. I say why? I like a challenge. I say there is no challenge in hunting farm deer. There is just no comparison in comparing the two. Apples to oranges. Farm deer hear machinery, they see people. THey just aren't as weary as bush deer. I'm not saying people that hunt farms aren't hunters. I'm just saying IMO! It's two different types of hunting. This fellow was only concentrated in shear #'s Which as a fellow hunter I don't agree with. I was brought up with the mindset "YOU GO HUNTING BECAUSE YOU LOVE IT" anything extra is a bonus! Anyone else that doesn't agree! I don't care. If I was a rude person. I would say. Go massage your prostate! But I wouldn't say that. So I won't.

Dave.
 
We hunt both bush and farms. The Nov rifle hunt with hounds, it is the best, just for the history. Then last year we filled the freezer with farm deer, it was nice to do but not the same type of "hunting" that is for sure. I would not give up the opportunity to hunt any way I can get though.
 
We don't call getting a farm deer "hunting". We call it "shooting". If we get one back in the bush, that's hunting.

Take me to my hometown in late October. If it were legal, I would be able to shoot 50 deer in one day. I would bet my nicest rifle on it. And at the end of the day, I would still have that rifle. Is that hunting? To some maybe, not to me.
 
who cares where a person is hunting, it is not for you to decide what is and is not "hunting", the guy is legally harvesting an animal in an ethical way and that is all that matter's......

at the end of the year his freezer is just as full as yours and frankly with the crop damage these deer do around farmland I am sure the farmer likes him and his buddies a lot.

there is no need to "dis" someone for thier hunting methods ?? must I bring up bear baiting in ontario as an example or road hunting here in B.C.

hell here in BC we have an open doe season to kill them specifically on farmland (with farmers permission) because they are destroying upwards of 40-50% of the crop.... and wild pigs are a problem here to.
 
huntinstuff said:
We don't call getting a farm deer "hunting". We call it "shooting". If we get one back in the bush, that's hunting.

Take me to my hometown in late October. If it were legal, I would be able to shoot 50 deer in one day. I would bet my nicest rifle on it. And at the end of the day, I would still have that rifle. Is that hunting? To some maybe, not to me.
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Tell me about it. A couple years ago we covered a lot of miles in the bush, got 1 buck and 1 doe. Driving into Caroline at the end of the day we saw WAY over 100 deer, bucks and does, WT and Mule, in cultivated fields near town.
 
That's the great thing about hunting, you get to do it YOUR way. Let's be happy doing our own thing and offer to share your hunt with the other guy if he wants to see how you do it. If not each to his own. Either way the more people we have involved the better
 
Westicle said:
who cares where a person is hunting, it is not for you to decide what is and is not "hunting", the guy is legally harvesting an animal in an ethical way and that is all that matter's......
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whatever floats your boat. As long as you enjoy what you do, and its legal, giv'r
 
todbartell said:
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whatever floats your boat. As long as you enjoy what you do, and its legal, giv'r
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Hunting is hunting. One is easier than the other for sure. It is the same difference as fishing for lake trout in a lake or fishing them out of a stocked trout pond. Both are fishing, it is just that one is MUCH easier than the other. If the guy says that they are both the same then just go tell him to pound dirt.
 
Taken from the Alberta Hunting and Conservation Education manual:

Your personal code of ethics and your hunting behavior may change through the years. It is usual for a hunter to go through five behavior stages.

1) First is the "shooter stage" - a time when shooting firearms is of primary interest.

2) Next is the "limiting-out stage" - when the hunter wants, above all, to bag the legal limit of game he is hunting.

3) The third stage is the "trophy stage" - the hunter is selective, primarily seeking out trophy animals of a particular species.

4) Then the "technique stage" - the emphasis is on HOW rather than WHAT he hunts.

5) The last stage is called the "mellowing-out stage" - this is a time of enjoyment derived from the total hunting experience - the hunt, the companionship of other hunters and an appreciation of the outdoors.

When a hunter has reached the mellowing-out stage of his development, bagging game will be more symbolic than essential for his satisfaction.
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So some people will simply find themselves in a different 'stage' than others. Nothing wrong with that, it's a personal thing, like your personal code of ethics. I see myself skipping past a couple of these stages, but that's just me. Stage 5 is my ultimate goal, and in fact, even though I've yet to go on my first hunt, I would like to have it be a 'stage 5' experience.
 
huntinstuff said:
We don't call getting a farm deer "hunting". We call it "shooting". If we get one back in the bush, that's hunting.
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I agree.

Though if I don't get any deer hunting the last couple days of the season I go to the farm land,and do some shooting.It's my last resort but does put meat in my freezer.I am sure when I get older I will be doing alot more shooting,and alot less hunting.
 
Westicle said:
who cares where a person is hunting, it is not for you to decide what is and is not "hunting", the guy is legally harvesting an animal in an ethical way and that is all that matter's......
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Right! ........ You have your fun, he has his. No one is wrong. :)




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Westicle said:
who cares where a person is hunting, it is not for you to decide what is and is not "hunting", the guy is legally harvesting an animal in an ethical way and that is all that matter's......
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There's no reason to look down on someone just because they don't do things the same way as you.
 
All farmland used to be "owned" the wild life. We humans took the land from these critters. Most important wild life habitat has been turned into farmland. Only the Buffalo is gone. Deer hunting has also improved with human created open areas, like clear cut logging and eatdeble crops.

Therefore, nothing wrong with hunting deer, elk and moose on farms and clearcuts.
 
You know maybe hunting a farm is a little less challenging "I don't think so however but why must we make useless comments and discuss silly crap like this it's is really no wonder why the ani's are so well armed when we pick and biker at each other about such silly stuff. As long as the hunter is obeying the law and hunting ethically and using what meat he aor she takes applaude them don't pick or bash them. We need to stand untied and embrace our fellow hunter!!!!! Or one day the anti's will win if we can't get along!!
 
There is no doubt it is easier to hunt land that offers good visibility. In my opinion it's not a very technical hunt, but it is a necessary hunt, possibly more so than hunting the bush. The grain/feed losses to wildlife are simply amazing. Just outside Radisson last Thursday, I saw what must have been thousands of snow geese digesting a field. They're like ####ing locusts.
 
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