I hate Canadian gun laws!
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yes but they hunt with those 16" AR's.
agreed, took the Family shopping in Syracuse, NY - Carousel Mall this summer, we stayed overnight in Cicero, NY at a Holiday Inn Express. OMG, in the same parking lot is a Gander Mountain! I couldn't believe my eyes, drool......... I walked in, and almost fell to my knees. Ammunition piles and piles and on special, rebates also. I didn't say I purchased any. What a different feeling walking around, different attitudes, staff are great, "Y'all set?"
I always get a bit of a giggle out of that whole "Made in America" thing - they always roll out Harley Davidson as the poster child. If you take a look at a new Harley, you'll notice that they use exactly as many of those "imported" parts as they can while still being able to put a made in the USA label on them. As far as gun laws go, there are States that are far superior to Canada (Vermont, Idaho, Arizona etc), there are also States where the level of f*ck is absolutely insane (Kalifornia, New York). By it's very nature, America is a land of contradictions.
strider007
CGN frequent flyer
Went to Buffalo, NY today and of course had to stop at Buffalo gun center for a drool. Handled a few toys, but after I spoke my first sentence I got "are you from Canada or something?" aparently I dont say 'about' right, last time I was there my 'Z' gave me away lol.
They have soooo many nice toys I'll never get to experience because because of our laws it's downright depressing.I think if I ever move down there all I'd be buying are compacts!
Join the club, man! I get that same feeling (for handguns, anyway) everytime I walk into a gun shop in the US...
I think this pretty much sums it up...
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- Okanagan-Similkameen,BC
+ 1 for that. Our rights have been usurped!
Went to Buffalo, NY today and of course had to stop at Buffalo gun center for a drool. Handled a few toys, but after I spoke my first sentence I got "are you from Canada or something?" aparently I dont say 'about' right, last time I was there my 'Z' gave me away lol.
They have soooo many nice toys I'll never get to experience because because of our laws it's downright depressing.
Got Juice?
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- Peoples Republik of Kanukkistan
You guys would have kittens if you went to Idaho or Utah then.
Lol it is illegal to mail or courier alcohol in Utah, but perfectly fine to carry a sidearm. Who knew?
Lol it is illegal to mail or courier alcohol in Utah, but perfectly fine to carry a sidearm. Who knew?
US / Canada guns and other issues.
Yes my friends there are issues besides guns!! I love my guns and shooting as much as any of you. I'm also privileged to live six months in Canada and six months wherever I want here in the US. I'm in Texas for the winter with my guns and plenty of ammo and really have a good time.
But access to firearms is not LIFE. I'm always happy to get back to Canada. For one I don't get up in the morning and get dressed complete with handgun, BUG and knife because I feel like I have to. Then there is the whole attitude thing. I agree that our gun laws are a pain at times. But there is more to quality life. I know a guy that won't go down his driveway to pick up the mail without arming himself. People in some places here won't get out of their vehicles to use an ATM. Some people here can't understand why others think that concealed carry on college campuses might be a bad idea.
I've never given a moments thought to the relative wound channels from one caliber to another. There are people here that spend more time picking their carry ammo than I spend buying a truck. Do you really want to trade places?
Yes my friends there are issues besides guns!! I love my guns and shooting as much as any of you. I'm also privileged to live six months in Canada and six months wherever I want here in the US. I'm in Texas for the winter with my guns and plenty of ammo and really have a good time.
But access to firearms is not LIFE. I'm always happy to get back to Canada. For one I don't get up in the morning and get dressed complete with handgun, BUG and knife because I feel like I have to. Then there is the whole attitude thing. I agree that our gun laws are a pain at times. But there is more to quality life. I know a guy that won't go down his driveway to pick up the mail without arming himself. People in some places here won't get out of their vehicles to use an ATM. Some people here can't understand why others think that concealed carry on college campuses might be a bad idea.
I've never given a moments thought to the relative wound channels from one caliber to another. There are people here that spend more time picking their carry ammo than I spend buying a truck. Do you really want to trade places?
TightGroup
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- Saint-Louis-de-Kent, NB
Nothing is perfect in life. However the fact is we do not have a choice , the choices are made for us without our consent. WE live in a less violent climate, but fear not we also have our areas which would make the toughest American shudder in fear.
Our laws where drafted to remove all possible defense scenarios and to facilitate LEO's domination of a situation. In Canada its citizen are discouraged from self defense, which IMHO is in direct opposition to our charters and rights.
My inlaws lived in Florida from the 70' till about a few years. They have lived the horrors of being defenseless and the salvation of CCW, They have seen and lived the difference of CCW
Canadian Gun Law
I'm not against ownership for SD or HD use at all. At the same time, I don't see the restrictions as being an attack on my freedom. There are a lot of things that I'm not permitted to do and I accept that. I see the laws as misguided and often irrational. But they are born of ignorance and even more so fear and so hard to combat.
I would vote for SD/HD ownership in a heartbeat but do not want the American non-system in Canada. Down here, the notion of regulated anything gets the 2nd amendment and other right-wing panties in a knot. I do believe in mandated training as unless it is done voluntarily here in the US, gunhandling skills or lack thereof can cause most trained people fits. To me you need to be more than just born and criminal record free to qualify. I also don't have a problem with registration as I don't have the paranoia that this brings about in some.
A good qualification and training program would be all I would need to sign up for changes. I know that "qualifications tests" are difficult to administer fairly and that's why an appeal process would be needed and yes there would be some bureaucracy but that's the price I would pay.
I'm not against ownership for SD or HD use at all. At the same time, I don't see the restrictions as being an attack on my freedom. There are a lot of things that I'm not permitted to do and I accept that. I see the laws as misguided and often irrational. But they are born of ignorance and even more so fear and so hard to combat.
I would vote for SD/HD ownership in a heartbeat but do not want the American non-system in Canada. Down here, the notion of regulated anything gets the 2nd amendment and other right-wing panties in a knot. I do believe in mandated training as unless it is done voluntarily here in the US, gunhandling skills or lack thereof can cause most trained people fits. To me you need to be more than just born and criminal record free to qualify. I also don't have a problem with registration as I don't have the paranoia that this brings about in some.
A good qualification and training program would be all I would need to sign up for changes. I know that "qualifications tests" are difficult to administer fairly and that's why an appeal process would be needed and yes there would be some bureaucracy but that's the price I would pay.
The thing that bothers me most about our gun laws is that so many WW1 and 2 historic pistols are prohibited. The luger that was brought back from Germany (not to mention the Walther PP and PPK, Mausers and many more) after the war is a thing to be scorned unless you have a special 12(6) designation. Even if you had multiple short barrelled .32's in the past, they are not within the reach of the average citizen. What a shame these old guns are now destined to be destryed if not passed down to relatives.
Legal foolishness
I agree with you Loyer. I didn't mind the rigour of the application process and similarly didn't mind a through background check. I think many if not most of us law-abiding responsible gun owners would agree albeit reluctantly. I'm quite happy that the "study" and testing was more than a rubber stamp as I reason that some requirements may scare off those that aren't serious and willing to put some effort into the process.
However there are other things such as you mention that infuriate me. After the effort and expense we go through, some or the regulations are insulting not to mention stupid. Applying the same barrel length restriction to both revolvers and pistols is one of them. Similarly not being able to shoot a perfectly adequate .32 round but equally being able to buy and shoot a block busting .44 magnum is beyond rationalization. I could go on but most of us here would understand and offer their own examples.
The one major thing that the law and regulations ignore is the overall high quality discipline and behavior in the shooting community. I would bet that many drinking and driving deaths occur annually on the trip home from licensed curling rinks and golf courses. In my experience, a night at the range is sober, decent, fun and safe at no one's expense. Being treated as irresponsible adolescents angers me no end.
I'm 100% sure that snowmobiles and offroad vehicles cause more injury, death and destruction of property than legitimate shooters ever will. That said, banning those machines and those activities would never be tolerated.
I agree with you Loyer. I didn't mind the rigour of the application process and similarly didn't mind a through background check. I think many if not most of us law-abiding responsible gun owners would agree albeit reluctantly. I'm quite happy that the "study" and testing was more than a rubber stamp as I reason that some requirements may scare off those that aren't serious and willing to put some effort into the process.
However there are other things such as you mention that infuriate me. After the effort and expense we go through, some or the regulations are insulting not to mention stupid. Applying the same barrel length restriction to both revolvers and pistols is one of them. Similarly not being able to shoot a perfectly adequate .32 round but equally being able to buy and shoot a block busting .44 magnum is beyond rationalization. I could go on but most of us here would understand and offer their own examples.
The one major thing that the law and regulations ignore is the overall high quality discipline and behavior in the shooting community. I would bet that many drinking and driving deaths occur annually on the trip home from licensed curling rinks and golf courses. In my experience, a night at the range is sober, decent, fun and safe at no one's expense. Being treated as irresponsible adolescents angers me no end.
I'm 100% sure that snowmobiles and offroad vehicles cause more injury, death and destruction of property than legitimate shooters ever will. That said, banning those machines and those activities would never be tolerated.
I agree that there are good and bad points with the American system. It's also not as rosy as it seems in some states. I talked to a fellow who lived and worked in Indiana I believe and there you could own any handgun but you had to own a certain acreage (30 acres I believe) or have written permission from someone who owned said acreage in order to shoot them outside of a range. So you can have a concealed carry permit and carry a gun but you just can't shoot it.
As for here the things that bug me are the prohib status and not being able to shoot out in the "back forty" (legally) TC
As for here the things that bug me are the prohib status and not being able to shoot out in the "back forty" (legally
) TCTightGroup
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- Saint-Louis-de-Kent, NB
The issue in the US from the perspective of my inlaws is that crime was running amok with no relief or protection. Under such conditions CCW is still the best countermeasure available. Can a system be improved , always, but in today's political climate change always hide an agenda that is sour to most. In Canada we have the fear mongers like the antis shouting about chaos and destruction from the barrel of gun, which has left us with a very restrictive guncontrol system which does curtail my right to self defense. There is my problem
If you hate the Canadian Gun Laws now, every gun owner will hate them a lot more,
before the LGR is scrapped.
Looks like the RCMP will be putting us through the wringer,
to get every last non-restricted they can, before it's too late.
Then, the reclassification. Hope I'm wrong.
before the LGR is scrapped.
Looks like the RCMP will be putting us through the wringer,
to get every last non-restricted they can, before it's too late.
Then, the reclassification. Hope I'm wrong.
