I have a Cadex-R7 Field Comp for Review - Review and Pictures Up!

Is the 3 lug double stack mag thing really true?

My Defiance Elite feeds from an AW mag great.

Also, MDT came out with the DSSF mags which have a very similar size as the AW ones.
 
In a three lug action, one lug faces straight down. As the bolt moves forward to strip a round from the magazine, that lug engages a larger portion of the case head on each column than a two lug action.

A two lug bolt can work well if it was engineered to feed from dual column mags. Its just that a 3 lug design provides a larger contact/engagement surface for that specific task.

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J996 said:
In a three lug action, one lug faces straight down. As the bolt moves forward to strip a round from the magazine, that lug engages a larger portion of the case rim of each column than a two lug action.
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But proper feeding is based on the figure 8 idea - according to some (the head of the case and the bolt face make a figure 8). Lots of 2 lugs out there running AW mags (Defiance, Stiller, Bighorn, the occasional 700).

Either way, a 9# vs is a 6# bolt lift is not noticeable when shooting. If you can't lift it eat some wheaties.
 
Ryan.M.Anderson said:
But proper feeding is based on the figure 8 idea - according to some (the head of the case and the bolt face make a figure 8). Lots of 2 lugs out there running AW mags (Defiance, Stiller, Bighorn, the occasional 700).

Either way, a 9# vs is a 6# bolt lift is not noticeable when shooting. If you can't lift it eat some wheaties.
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All true, those actions (apart from the 700) have been designed to run those mags, BUT a downward facing lug still has more surface area in contact with the case head.
A downward facing lug is moving through down between the magazine feed lips as it loads. A two lug design can't get down that far on the case head.

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Lug pushing case operating down below magazine feed lips.

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Ryan.M.Anderson said:
But proper feeding is based on the figure 8 idea - according to some (the head of the case and the bolt face make a figure 8). Lots of 2 lugs out there running AW mags (Defiance, Stiller, Bighorn, the occasional 700).

Either way, a 9# vs is a 6# bolt lift is not noticeable when shooting. If you can't lift it eat some wheaties.
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A lighter bolt lift and close is certainly appreciated to prevent disturbing sight picture when shooting from a compromised position such as a barricade. Not so much a matter of having the strength to do it.
 
kthomas said:
A lighter bolt lift and close is certainly appreciated to prevent disturbing sight picture when shooting from a compromised position such as a barricade. Not so much a matter of having the strength to do it.
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Totally agree with you on that. Sometimes though I wonder if it is a more academic discussion than a practical one.

I did not notice the Cadex being that much more unsettled than my other guns. However, I do lever open the action with my thumb on the tang area and the bolt handle presses on my hand webbing.
 
It's nice to see that I'm not alone in being critical of the force required to cycle the bolt.

I'm not speaking of Cadex as being problematic in this regard BTW... more in reference to wrestling with the RPR actually.
 
Maple57 said:
It's nice to see that I'm not alone in being critical of the force required to cycle the bolt.

I'm not speaking of Cadex as being problematic in this regard BTW... more in reference to wrestling with the RPR actually.
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Lighter bolt lifts are nice but as soon as you go away from a 2 lug as Kthomas mentions it is going to increase. The same amount of work has to be done one way or another.

You can get fancy by splitting the force over the opening and closing actions but it is still the same amount of force.

My AI & TRG were both heavier than my Defiance and Remington actions. It is just the way it goes.
 
I'm curious if fluted bolts have harder bolt lift or cycling force than smooth bolts.

I have a heavy fluted Defiance on order at the moment.
 
I thought I should mention that I received a nice email from Cadex today (December 18 2018) in response to my suggestion that they should add a hole in the butt stock on the fixed stock so we can bore sight the rifle and clean the rifle without disassembly of the stock.

Patrice stated in his email that "From now on all Cadex rifles and chassis with a fixed stock will be equipped with a drilled hole for the cleaning rod."

Isn't that nice of them to take a customers suggestion seriously.
 
After I Joined the Cadex shooting team I was invited to visit the shop for a full tour to understand the detail and process that goes into every rifle/product. I was extremely impressed! Every detail in not over looked. They take all recommendations very seriously and are always looking to move forward and be a leader in the industry. Most of the ideas I was looking for are already in the pipeline.
Hoping to have my 6mm creed next week and will give a full review after I get a chance to run it.

Cheers
Ryan
 
If you joined their shooting team, you must be more than just slightly convinced that their chassis works for PRS.
I love the look of their chassis's; the price tag not so much, but the heart wants what the heart wants, so someday I'll own one.
 
Ryan_mcle said:
After I Joined the Cadex shooting team I was invited to visit the shop for a full tour to understand the detail and process that goes into every rifle/product. I was extremely impressed! Every detail in not over looked. They take all recommendations very seriously and are always looking to move forward and be a leader in the industry. Most of the ideas I was looking for are already in the pipeline.
Hoping to have my 6mm creed next week and will give a full review after I get a chance to run it.

Cheers
Ryan
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Arca integrated fore-end in the pipeline?
 
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