I hope an abomination like this will never exsit here, NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED!!!

Backwoods said:
A bolt action gun that looks like an AR? Big deal. I can go buy a hundred bolt guns tomorrow. Nothing to see here.

Tinfoil and fear. ;)
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That is true you can buy a lot of other bolt guns out there.

This also proves a point on piece meal erosion - ban this style bolt action today, tomorrow ban bolt action 'sniper' rifles, the day after ban...

The bigger point is they can ban/classify stuff based on silly criteria - look at how they currently classify some 22lr's because they LOOK like AR's.
 
Yep. We are making tactical mistakes as we speak.

We kinda sorta got rid of the registry...last I heard, Quebec was refusing to destroy the data though, and fully intended to keep the old legislation going in their province. Whatever. But we've sat back, high fived each other...and stick our heads in the sand hoping that is it.

These gun grabbers are coming back folks.

We should be fighting like banshees right now, IMO.

- the mag capacity laws are asinine and need to be abolished. We should at least have exemptions for competitors like the 3 gun and IPSC guys.
- there needs to be stiffer punishment for criminals that steal and abuse our guns and use them on innocent people.
- we let the people responsible for the gun registry get away. They p***ed away two billion dollars, guys. I want my money back, I want to know where that money went and which liberal douches need to go to jail. The press is absorbed with the petty change squandered by Duffy and Wallin.
- we need to put gun clubs back in schools. Shooting is a healthy and wholesome sport and our kids need MORE of that, not less...I would like to see a system like the Swiss have where EVERYONE has AT LEAST one service rifle in the home and is proficient in its use.
- we should be openly telling our law makers that if they enact this kind of crap, we will not comply. (I think they learned that - but they learned it from the rank and file citizen, not the groups that are supposed to represent us).

Why are we letting these people push us around? We have a lot of work to do.
 
Steiner said:
To save a lot of reading, in simple terms.....

The privilege of gun ownership will most likely be chipped away slowly. That way it does not raise a big alarm or overly huge outcry. Take it away piecemeal. The industry will fade away piecemeal also. This is a very effective plan.

As stated, we have no constitutional right like in the US.

Britain and Australia are also democracies so how did it happen there?

What if the PC's change their stance on firearms in the future? We may have no party to support us ..... we may face the same fate as British and Australians shooters.

What happens when the classification system is updated to the new firearms being offered that didn't exist previously?

I think our position will always be precarious. Even if all the laws were reversed by the PC, it can be undone by the next party.
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Our situation in the UK is that firearm ownership has for decades been regarded as a 'privilege', which is all it takes for the anti gun movement and vote hungry politicians to gain a foothold to further their agenda.
Yup, I think the general mythology is still that we're a democracy....except the reality is more that of a covert dictatorship. ( Thank you Mr Blair! )
Though the reasons for our lack of scope/available shooting options are probably best explained off the net, as they are quite contentious and would probably attract the wrong attention from people I'd rather not meet again.
 
Have I not had enough coffee yet? 3rd picture, right above the fire/safe indicator. Is that not a forward assist? Then in the pictures right below it, it seems to have vanished?
 
supernova said:
so i voted conservative for nothing? And all the others that did the same had nothing to do with it, all those who went to bat for us... It happened for "some other reason". What a crock of s**t. We banded together and fought for something we wanted. You sit there looking at your half empty glass of freedom, scared of whatever has you so scared. Sounds depressing. we live in a free country. A democracy. That gives us a voice. if all you want to do is give up and be sad cos some crazy people wanna take your guns away then fine. If you think a multi billion dollar industry supported by tens of thousands of like minded canadians is just going to dry up and drift away like a fart in the wind then just sell your guns. You obviously think they're just gonna get taken away anyways so why bother? You've already given up. I don't want to see spbars as the only option either but i don't see that happening without a complete industry giving up and rolling over. Still too scared to think logically?
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ahahahahahaahahahahahahhahahahahaa.. Sure you do!
 
If this entire post is true, how the #### did we end up with all these crazy restrictions on our guns? How did we end up with laws that make zero sense? Did I miss something and at one point in time all the gun owners did a vote, and agreed that anything that looks like an AR should have hard restrictions?

Our democracy is an utter joke , we get to pick between a few parties that make our choices for us, they dont do some Canada wide vote on gun control, the government makes those choices for us.

"We are not going to give up" Yet every time they have reclassified something, brought in laws, charged someone for bull####, it stayed that way , do you even KNOW what happened in Australia and UK? The LGR was abolished due to false predicting, it cost WAY more then they though it would, and yielded no results. All this "You all sound like anti's" Let me throw one back at you, claiming that the LGR was taken out of play, was FOR the gun owners and BY the gun owners and NOT because of the greed of our government, that's anti talk right there. They did not do it for us , not even in the slightest. If you think they did, then you are hopeless.

The picture of this wannabe AR is nothing to get bent out of shape about, I agree with you there, but everything else about your post makes me think you live under a rock brother, keep that thought "There are so many gun owners, we are all so tough and wont roll over like the aussies and brits, they cant do anything to us" Sit back, sip your lemonade, dont worry about it. We are some big happy family that all stand together when #### hits the fan right? WRONG, everyone just folds and gives in, its happened before, it will again. OOOOOR, like a lot of people seem to say when a gun is going to be reclassified "Oh, I sold mine, I dont have it, sorry... Hahah, pulled a quick one there didnt I!" I ####ing hate seeing people say that, good for them, they now have a safe queen that will be incinerated when they die because the next person in their family will get it and most likely wont want to take over an illegal gun (I wouldnt take it, if I were going to own something prohib, I'd buy something fully auto :D why piss around if your looking at a jail sentence anyway?). When instead they should be fighting for their right to keep it.This is the point where we would have to come together, be a common voice and put democracy to work, yet we never do (Probably because we do not make rules, so it wouldnt work anyway). So yeah, when faced with potential bans, we hide our guns and claim we sold them, we are so tough here in Canada f:P:

supernova said:
Lol this kind of fear mongering is what's wrong with gun owners. When the mere existence of something on another continent has you screaming doom and gloom because you think this is the only possible endgame. Fear of an inanimate object. This isn't the UK and we aren't a (complete) bunch of pansies who roll over and take it as some would have you believe. Remember the LGR? Thing of the past when one of our balls got rolling in Gov't. We backed the Conservatives and we scrapped the LGR. Now someone finds a legal way to put black rifles in the hands of UK gun owners and it spells the end of the world? That sounds like anti-gun propaganda. There are people who want all guns banned, yes. They're extremist lefties with smoke & mirror tactics that don't stand up in modern Government. Democracy does not allow total domination of a minority in this country. Saying otherwise is nothing more than emotionally charged blasphemy. The same thing the anti's use. The same thing that accomplishes nothing. We're not going to give up which means we will not be snuffed out. We consist of a little more than just a couple guys with guns. Get your pants off your head and settle down.
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It's better then no gun at all...

And with modern tools ect that sucker can be back to normal in no time.
 
Matty308 said:
I'm not saying it happened for no reason, what I mean is that it probably happened for a reason that benefits the government. If that's the case why have they done nothing more for us? Sure getting rid of the LGR was nice for us, but why didn't they just do the real deal and get rid of it all together? Scrap the registry for all rifles.. Get rid of the crap prohibitions on guns that has no effect on safety.. they know that those restrictions have no safety benefits. They could have easily just done nothing to the LGR, we would be in the same place as before and it wouldn't have had some drastic effect on them.

For you to sit there and think that you are safe and it will never happen is way more out to lunch then me thinking it will happen unless we get off our butt's and do something about it. You think UK and Aus wanted it to happen? If it can happen to them it can happen to us just as easy. We aren't like the USA where we have it in our constitutional rights, and to take that away is very serious. If the US government took up UK laws there would be a civil war. That's not how it works though, they chip away at it slowly.. one restriction at a time, until they get what they want. It's happening up here, its happening down there as well.
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I agree with what you're saying but you're missing one important piece of information, the US has already started, look up the SAFE act.
Once they get it through in NY they will move on to the next until they take them all. Feed on the sheeples fears and promise them it will make the world a safer place and they will let them get away with stripping them of their constitutional rights.
The Boston bombing was a perfect example, they pretty much declared martial law and were going into peoples homes without warrants all in the name of public safety. That was a test to see what they could get away with during a public panic and they passed with hardly any opposition from the people.
There will be a civil war down there and the government knows it, that's why they are trying to disarm them now. If they didn't know there would be a civil war why did their DHS buy 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition? That's a domestic security force, who are they planning to fight?

IBTL ;)
 
Oh I know it is happening, I said that at the bottom.. it's happening up here and its happening down there as well. The only difference is they actually do have a legal leg to stand on. They just need to fight it. The government does it right though, they try to scare majority of people into believing its the guns fault and then dissolve the rights slowly.

What I meant is if the US took UK laws overnight, there would be a war. There probably still will be at one point once they start realizing what the gov't plan is, they will accept it (as we have seen already) to a point.
 
Sadly no, our law states the limit on mag capacity depend on what the mag was designed for, in this case the mag is designed for a AR, in fact the rifle in the picture accepts standard AR mags, 5 round limit still applies, what we will end-up getting here is a straight pull bolt AR with 5 round mag limit, tell me this is not messed up.

lil_juiced_coupe said:
Everyone sees and ugly bolt action ar... I see legal 30 round mags for canada
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if it was the best we could get, I would buy one... but only because I could....
thankfully we can do so much better..... so everyone buy one... or two... make it harder, and more expensive to take them away...
 
Well technically it's not an AR, AR is a semiauto gas operated, this is a straight pull manual action,
To used your Car analogy, it's more like replacing the engine with a chain and peddles.

I was being sarcastic saying no matter what the gun is and does, the RCMP MAY classify it base on looks alone.

Suputin said:
Its not an AR variant. It IS an AR. If you painted a Honda a different colour and put a V6 in place of the inline 4 would the car no longer be a Honda?
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What a bunch of scared pussies in here. Listen to yourselves. You've already given up. Familygunnuts get it right, I'm not "attacking" you I'm arguing that this post is not as bad as you make it seem. The rest of you have serious comprehension problems and don't seem capable of responding without making false claims to base your arguments off of. You're scared of the gov't and the anti's cos they've won some battles. You think because you're too lazy to fight back that everyone else is. If you're so #### sure that you are going to lose your guns then why do you own them? Seems like a blatantly ignorant waste of money if you didn't think there was a chance you'll get to keep them right? So which is it?
 
I want my non-restricted AR as much as the next person.

The fact that i would want THIS rifle doesn't make me put up my arms and give up the fight.

Perhaps some of you think that simply accepting firearms like these somehow makes the antis wins? Not to me it doesn't. It just gives us more rifles to choose from! :)
 
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