I know,I know again t-3 Tactical 308 twist

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I broke down today and bought the tactical 308 short barrel.
They claim a twist rate of 1:11.
What best suits this twist 168s or 175-178s?

Also looking for a starting load for her, a member of the board gave me his but looking for others with the same gun.
Looking for 4064,varget,BlC-2, RL-15 loads for this gun.
I plan on kissing the lans and going with it, than will get serious about brass prep after forming them.
 
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If you are going to worry about the twist with a new rifle, you will talk yourself into blowing $500.00 on a new barrel without giving this one a chance. The time to worry about proper twist is when your barrel will not shoot and must be replaced. Your barrel should handle a broad range of bullet weights.

If you are going to use the magazine you will have to keep your OAL consistent with a length which will move freely in the box. Depending on the length of the throat, this may not give you much latitude to adjust the OAL. If you are not concerned with using the magazine, work up a load which has the bullet firmly seated in the lands. I like this approach for two reasons. Firstly, a rifle's best accuracy is often displayed when the bullet is seated right into the lands, and secondly because I think it's safer. If you reduce bullet jump with a load that is already hot - but safe and accurate with bullet jump - you could end up with pressure problems as you increase the OAL.

Now you have a load which gives you good accuracy with the bullet seated firmly in the lands. Start reducing the OAL until you find the sweet spot which gives you the best accuracy. If you are patient you could reduce the OAL by as little as .0005, if you are not adjust by .001. Once you find the sweet spot, it is simply a matter of tweaking the load slightly to find the best accuracy for that OAL.

All the powders you listed will give you good accuracy with the .308, but pick one and start with it to keep the variables manageable. I like Varget, but everyone has their own ideas. I would also pick one bullet and start with that for the same reason. If you plan to shoot at medium ranges the 168 gr. will do very well out to about 800 yards. If you are bitten by the long range bug, then 155's, 175's, or 200's are a better choice as they stay supersonic longer.
 
Boomer I understand your thought proccess on the barrel twist however every twist rate new or old has a optimum twist for the bullet structure.
1:14 best for palma match 1:10 supports a hievier bullet say 180-190.
And your right a 1:11 will carry most bullet wieghts in the range you mentioned, I was looking for the best one and guys who own these what wieght works best in the t-3 Tactical. And yes some barrels will supprize you and shoot something better that it should on paper LOL. Its up to the barrel sometimes?
Once I find it your right kiss the lands load the powders and go from there tweeking it along the way, than screw with the brass.
If I had to guess I would pick the 175 than the 168s.
But thank you for your advice.
 
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My Tikka Master Sporter has the 1:11 twist with a 23" barrel.
I use:
  • 175 SMK's
  • 44.7gr Varget
  • F210M primers
  • norma brass
Touching the lands. 2680fps. 3/4" 5 shot @ 200yds. Consistenly hits paper plates at 800yds (if that means anything :rolleyes: :D)
 
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using a 1:11 twist,

168gn 2700 fps stability 2.5
175gn 2500 fps stability 1.8
180gn 2400 fps stability 1.8

Anything above 1.5 is excellent so you should not have any problem, you of course need to prove this on the range but it looks like you will not have a problem

From a practical point, I have a Rem700 VS in .308 with a 1:10 twist, I have load data for 155Palma, 155 Berger vld, 168 sierra, 175 sierra, and 175 Berger vld, all shoot less than .5moa as long as you prep the brass and load close to the lands. The best long distance performance is with the Berger 175 vld's
 
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Thanks guys I had excellent results with ittoday these rifles are un real. Even a bad load shoots sub MOA.
I owned a Savage that I had accuracy issues with, this T-3 tac makes me feel a whole lot better and it seems more load forgiving than my LE1 I had.
 
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