I know what a drilling is...

One of the regular guys came into the shop one day saying, "Look what I have." It was an over/under 10 ga magnum. Weighed 15 pounds.
That the answer to the what gun would you own if you could only have one? I seem to recall seeing 4 barreled shotguns in some book years ago. Not as pretty as that one though.
 
I don't know of any restrictions on numbers of firearms you can own in Germany. My wife has relatives there and I went out boar hunting with her niece one time and she selected a couple rifles from a locker full of them, and grabbed a .38 revolver and put it in her hunting coat pocket too as we packed up to go.
 
yes the pistol or revolver for hunters but only for finishing a wounded animal. retrieving one is part of their ethic and regulation.

I dont know about the actual regulation and numbers of long gun an owner can have. I have been told that when I was doing joint shooting competition and it was already a while ago.
 
Blastattack said:
Beautiful gun, but being in North America and not having an restriction on # of firearms owned, I cannot see how such a contraption would be even remotely useful. Gotta give the Europeans credit though. They sure come up with a lot of god-awful designs to comply with their even worse gun laws.
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With a work of art like that, I imagine that utility would be a secondary consideration at best. If that gun was mine, I don't think it would ever leave it's case. The glass display case, that is.
 
"They sure come up with a lot of god-awful designs to comply with their even worse gun laws."

I don't think that's the reason. They might encounter a variety of game throughout a day in the field, thus you will see various types of drilling such as a double shotgun with one rifle barrel in case they are hare shooting with a shotgun and see a boar or a stag, or you have a rifle over a shotgun barrel for the same reason, they might want the rifle for boar or roebuck and a shotgun barrel for hare or partridge or loaded with buckshot, a fox. There are plenty of reasons to have drillings.

Wiki says:


"Combination guns have a long history in Europe, Africa, and Asia, dating back to the early days of cartridge firearms. These guns are almost exclusively hunting arms. The advantage of having a single firearm that can fire both rifle and shotgun cartridges is that a single gun can be used to hunt a very wide variety of game, from deer to game birds, and the shooter can choose the barrel appropriate for the target in seconds. As a result, they are popular with gamekeepers who often need the flexibility of the combination gun during their normal duties."
 
I apologize for being so overly harsh yesterday. I saw a Blaser R8 and the price of it's magazines and it poisoned my opinion of anything extravagant the europeans might try. It looks pretty, but I despise it's (in my view) poor design. And in doing so, took my disgust out on this very beautiful, if still questionably useful rifle.
 
Blastattack said:
I apologize for being so overly harsh yesterday. I saw a Blaser R8 and the price of it's magazines and it poisoned my opinion of anything extravagant the europeans might try. It looks pretty, but I despise it's (in my view) poor design. And in doing so, took my disgust out on this very beautiful, if still questionably useful rifle.
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Tell me what you use that's better than the R8.
 
Ardent said:
Tell me what you use that's better than the R8.
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Don't know, never fired one. I just don't like it. I don't like it's design, I don't like it's aesthetics, I don't like that fact it has $450 "replacement" magazines, I don't like the way it looks with the action open. It may well be excellently engineered and highly functional, but I just plain do not like it. I am very happy to stick to my Ross rifles and "Mauser" rifles of all stripes; Remington, Winchester and the rest included.
 
Blastattack said:
Don't know, never fired one. I just don't like it. I don't like it's design, I don't like it's aesthetics, I don't like that fact it has $450 "replacement" magazines, I don't like the way it looks with the action open. It may well be excellently engineered and highly functional, but I just plain do not like it.
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Just finished reading "Green Eggs and Ham" by Dr. Seuss?
 
Seems you're stuck on conventions. They are great rifles, with few faults and a lot of upsides, I don't choose them either but don't turn my nose up at them. Things made with high precision and small numbers compared to the American mainstream brands, in countries like Germany, cost money and no way to avoid it. An R8, though not my choice either, looks and acts like Ferrari mechanically bedside a Savage, Remington, etc.

This said, for the investment I too would buy other rifles and a CRF to boot. However there are certainly few flies on the R8 or any quality choice of that class, and none are junk or even stupid.
 
bearkilr said:
Just finished reading "Green Eggs and Ham" by Dr. Seuss?
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I do not like them, Sam-I-am!

Ardent said:
Seems you're stuck on conventions. They are great rifles, with few faults and a lot of upsides, I don't choose them either but don't turn my nose up at them. Things made with high precision and small numbers compared to the American mainstream brands, in countries like Germany, cost money and no way to avoid it. An R8, though not my choice either, looks and acts like Ferrari mechanically bedside a Savage, Remington, etc.

This said, for the investment I too would buy other rifles and a CRF to boot. However there are certainly few flies on the R8 or any quality choice of that class, and none are junk or even stupid.
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Haha. I'm not sure I would call Ross rifles conventional, but I see your point. However, I don't see the point of the rifle, much as I don't see the point of a Ferrari. If someone gifted me either I wouldn't say no, but I also would not keep them or even use them. Off to the auction block they would go, so-to-speak.
 
Blastattack said:
I apologize for being so overly harsh yesterday. I saw a Blaser R8 and the price of it's magazines and it poisoned my opinion of anything extravagant the europeans might try. It looks pretty, but I despise it's (in my view) poor design. And in doing so, took my disgust out on this very beautiful, if still questionably useful rifle.
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the r8 is an evolution of the 93 that came from the sr830. those rifles are not for everybody but there is a market and seems you re not in that niche ... btw there is now an r8 with no detachable magazine if really that was your little request blaser made if for you ... lol
 
Until you handle and shoot a drilling or bigger, you might be surprised how light and balanced these guns can be. These are typically better built than ' Savages'.
 
I have two drillings and like them a lot, I find them practical for mixed bag hunting in Saskatchewan & BC, where we can hunt big game, grouse, rabbit, and fur bearers all at the same time. Examples:

Last time I used my Krieghoff 16x16/7x57R drilling I shot two beavers while bear hunting. I used the .22 magnum insert barrel in the left shotgun barrel for that job. Grouse on the wing are always available to the shotgun.

I used my 16x16/8x57IR Sauer drilling for ptarmigan on top of a mountain in BC. Considering all the grizzly bear sign that I encountered on the high ridges it was a comfort to have the 8x57IR barrel loaded with 198 grain bullet at 2300 fps.
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I'd be willing to bet that Vierling is not heavy or clumsy, it is amazing how thin the German and Austrian master gunsmiths can make barrels on combo guns. A real work of functional art.
 
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