I love 1911's but i found this very interesting.

GunGuy34 said:
sly mantis said:
Just like a properly built 1911 is just as reliable as a properly built glock. That's the point. If its properly built doesnt matter what you run.[/QUOTl

lol so obviously then Glocks are more reliable.
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Only if your understanding of english is terrible. "just as" does not mean the same as "more". If they're both properly built they're both equally reliable.
Ive seen plenty of guys at the range have failures with their glocks. They're no better or no worse than a 1911.
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sly mantis said:
GunGuy34 said:
Only if your understanding of english is terrible. "just as" does not mean the same as "more". If they're both properly built they're both equally reliable.
Ive seen plenty of guys at the range have failures with their glocks. They're no better or no worse than a 1911.
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Really! I'd really like to hear about what type of failures the glocks were having. Could it possibly be due to using reloads or limp wristing?
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GunGuy34 said:
They failed due to the environment in Vietnam, they had to be kept really clean or they would have problems, the AK has no such problems. Why some us soldiers resorted to using AK's when theirs quit working.

Enlighten me as to what im missing.

If you could buy semi automatic AK's in Canada as easily as AR's, i bet most would get an AK.
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Incorrect.

They failed due to "dirty" powder used in the ammo (corrected) and the initial guidelines from the factory that it needed absolutely no kind of cleaning (corrected by including cleaning kit).

Enlightened?
 
sly mantis said:
GunGuy34 said:
Only if your understanding of english is terrible. "just as" does not mean the same as "more". If they're both properly built they're both equally reliable.
Ive seen plenty of guys at the range have failures with their glocks. They're no better or no worse than a 1911.
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yabut your talking in fantasy. Lets talk reality. You take any out of the box glock, and put it against any out of the box 1911 right now and the glock will win the reliability contest.
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domyalex said:
Incorrect.

They failed due to "dirty" powder used in the ammo (corrected) and the initial guidelines from the factory that it needed absolutely no kind of cleaning (corrected by including cleaning kit).

Enlightened?
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They failed cause is was an inferior design to the ak period. They may be more accurate even today put an ak and an AR through the same torture tests the ak will keep running.
 
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i know that you're not going to convince me of your opinion and im not going to convince you of mine. So theres no point in continuing this pointless thread. So please continue without me children.
 
sly mantis said:
i know that you're not going to convince me of your opinion and im not going to convince you of mine. So theres no point in continuing this pointless thread. So please continue without me children.
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the adults are the ones having the conversation, its children that resort to your antics when they have nothing of value to add.
 
It looks like someone has put their ego into the Glock. To carry on endlessly about Glock this and Glock that gets a little tiresome.

Glock is the be all and end all. Great.
 
So is a SR 1911 junk? I want a fun, reliable, accurate, affordable 1911 not an expensive work project. I'd rather spend my time shooting the buying parts and fixing. But I do love the 1911.
 
kjparks said:
So is a SR 1911 junk? I want a fun, reliable, accurate, affordable 1911 not an expensive work project. I'd rather spend my time shooting the buying parts and fixing. But I do love the 1911.
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Dunno, havnt owned one. But have owned a Springfield 1911 loaded and a Sig Sauer POW/MIA 1911.

With both i found when they got dirty, at around 400 rounds or so, i got malfunctions. Even with wilson combat 47D mags, which are reliable magazines.

It goes to show it depends on how much you shoot. If you shoot only a couple hundred rounds every outing, you may not find any issues.

I have had no such issues with any glocks i have owned.

From G17, 22, or 21.
 
sly mantis said:
Just like a properly built 1911 is just as reliable as a properly built glock. That's the point. If its properly built doesnt matter what you run.
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While a properly built 1911 will run with similar reliability to a Glock, the maintenance intervals are shorter, and the maintenance that they require is more expensive and more complex.

GunGuy34 said:
They failed cause is was an inferior design to the ak period. They may be more accurate even today put an ak and an AR through the same torture tests the ak will keep running.
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I am not sure what experience you base this on...except in the sense that I know you base this on no experience at all.

ARs will often survive dust and sand tests that choke AKs, for example. The main advantages of the AK platform are the extremely positive extraction and the robust magazines...the AR mag has now been made reliable, and extraction has been tuned to an effective level. AKs have not had an edge on quality ARs for years.

If you have data to the contrary, of course, I am sure everyone will be fascinated by it.
 
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