I need help with this Gun please.

Haytham

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I bought a Savage 7mm Mag and it has a 3x9x40 leopuld scope. This gun has been giving me lots of problems. The scope need adjustments all the time. Sometimes it shoots too high and some other times it shoots too low. Also the Stock is a little bit loose, I check all the screws and they all very tight. can you please advise if this gun worth spending any money on? I am fairly new to guns and my experience is not that great. any help would be highly appreciated.
 
What exactly do you mean when you say "the stock is loose", but "the screws are tight"? Take the screws out of the bottom metal and remove the barreled action from the stock. Ensure that the action is sitting square in the stock, and that it is all the way down in the stock. Same with the magazine box, and bottom metal if it has any. Make sure the screws on the bottom of the gun are tight, then remove the scope and make sure the scope mount screws are tight. Reinstall the scope, and make sure the ring screws are tight. Please keep in mind that all the scope and mount screws are small screws, and tight is measured in inch pounds, and not a lot of those. Savages are usually pretty good guns, quite accurate and a bargain for the money. - dan
 
thanks for your help Dan, but as I indicated. The scope is always off, and someone told me that maybe because of the play between the barrel and the stock. I tried all of your recomendations before, still play between the stock and the barrel. Again, I am not sure if this is also effecting the scope as it's always off.

Thanks again

roadwarrior, the gun was bought brand new from a gun show in Calgary, 1 year old.
 
Also get an experienced shooter to put a few rounds through it. When I was learning and shooting my first rifle. It was all over the place, had my buddy shoot it cause something must be wrong. He put up a very nice group on target and said it was officially me and not the rifle. Just a thought.
 
Haytham said:
The scope is always off, and someone told me that maybe because of the play between the barrel and the stock. I tried all of your recomendations before, still play between the stock and the barrel.

The play between the barrel and stock is normal. Savage have free floating barrels (the action is in contact with the stock but not the barrel).
 
Ditto the above; the barrel isn't supposed to be touching the stock forward of the action. You should be able to slide a couple sheets of paper at least between them up to the chamber.

If the action itself is loose, something's not right there. Are there washers on the inside between the action and the bedding blocks? Try taking them out if there are.

As for the scope, is it out right after you make an adjustment? Sometimes they have a sticky reticle (not common in a Leupy, but still) that won't settle till after the recoil of the next shot.

When I make an adjustment, I tap the handle of a rubber gripped screwdriver on the tube both ahead and behind the turrets a couple of times.

I presume you did check to make sure the rings and mounts are tight.

Good luck!
 
Silverado, I actualy tried all the above and still no luck. Could it be a bad scope? It's alittle bit frustrating, as sometimes it misses the whole target @100y.

It's not my shooting as I tried my buddy's gun and I was on traget all the time.

Thanks
 
What kind of rings and bases are on it? Did you pull the scope completely off of the rifle and start from scratch? Or did you just tighten the screws that you could access?
 
I actualy tightend the reachable screws.. I am not sure about the kind of rings, the scope was mounted on the rifle...
 
Are you using different types of ammo during these exercises. That will definitely change point of impact. Also, are you resting the barrel on the rests? A definite no,no. When you do hit the paper, ar the shots grouped together? What size, at what distance?
 
Sounds like either the mounting screws are loose on the bases or the reticle is screwwed on the scope. Take the rings and bases off the gun and reassemple, borrow another scope from a buddy and see what happens. If it still acts up you know it's not the scope. If it still does it, sell the gun on a website other than CDN and get a better gun.
 
cosmic said:
Are you using different types of ammo during these exercises. That will definitely change point of impact. Also, are you resting the barrel on the rests? A definite no,no. When you do hit the paper, ar the shots grouped together? What size, at what distance?


I am using the same ammo.. 150gr remington. When I do hit the paper the shot are not grouped as I said before it will shoots high but then after adjusting it will shoots too low.
 
martinbns said:
Sounds like either the mounting screws are loose on the bases or the reticle is screwwed on the scope. Take the rings and bases off the gun and reassemple, borrow another scope from a buddy and see what happens. If it still acts up you know it's not the scope. If it still does it, sell the gun on a website other than CDN and get a better gun.


I will never sell this gun to anyone... cause we all are one family... But I was thinking to take it for trade in?
 
Are you making adjustments after each shot? I'm trying to establish if the rifle repeats from shot to shot without scope adjustment? Its very common for the scope adjustments to be approximate, particularly on elevation.
 
not a smith but i have heard that if the crown is dinged or dented it will cause alot of flyaways maybe have a look at that ? also if there is wiggle in the recoil pad or stock from the action back that might cause something but like it was mention before try a differnt scope in it the scope may have been beaten internally at somepoint and is causing your grief
 
Can you move the action around in the stock? If the action rattles around in the stock, major problem of the action bedding into the stock - take it to a gunsmith.

Can you put a piece of paper between the barrel and the stock? If so, it is probably floated and that is okay - you will likely be able to move the stock around a bit and see a bit of motion - that is okay. If the stock is so soft that it easily touches the barrel, the contact might throw the shots off. Take it to a gunsmith.

How big is your grouping? What sort of group do you normally shoot compared to what you are getting now?

Does your zero shift? If your zero is shifting from group to group, your scope/reticles/adjusting mechanism inside the scope might be broken. Try putting a 'good' scope on and compare.

Screw adjustments - front action screw should be very tight, the rear screw should be tight but turn it back slightly. If there is a middle screw, it should be very light. This may vary from rifle to rifle.

What's the condition of the barrel and rifling? When was it last cleaned and the copper fouling removed? Condition of the crown? Barrel may be past its useful life - take it to a gunsmith to inspect.

If it's a nail pounder, consider keeping the action and customn building! Good luck!
 
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