I never get tired of looking at these old guys.

Sharps Rifle Mfg.Co.
New Model 1863
Serial number C,9371
The prefix ‘C’ designates the serial number 100,000.
Therefore my New Model 1863 Sharps carbine serial number C, 9371 would be 109371.

New Model 1863 Sharps carbine- serial number C, 9371.
Issued to Company C. - 5th Illinois Volunteer Cavalry.

50 caliber (50-70) (metallic
Center Fire cartridge) see below.
This carbine was originally percussion and after the Civil war in 1867 it was converted
To center fire.

Following the Civil War, the U.S. Government in 1867 decided to convert many of the percussion military arms to metallic cartridge breechloaders. The Sharps carbine was one of those selected for conversion and contracts were given to Sharps Rifle Manufacturing Co. to alter carbines of their manufacture. A total of 31,098 carbines (of all three styles i.e., New Model 1859, 1863 and 1865) were converted. In addition to the normal inspector markings found on Sharps percussion carbines, an extra inspection stamp (initials DFC in a ribbon cartouche) was marked in the center of the left side of the buttstock. Conversion carbines are of two major types; (A) Original six-groove bores. (B) Relined bores with three-groove rifling. Conversions were refinished by the factory; when condition of the original stock required that it be replaced, a buttstock with no patchbox was used in all cases, regardless of the original model designation.
These carbines were re-issued and saw substantial use during the Indian Wars.







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.52 cal. Sharps paper cartridges. (NOT MINE.)


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These carbine slings DO NOT belong to me.



A carbine socket which was attached to the cavalry saddle to keep the carbine from swinging when the horse was moving.



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A very nice '###lord' marked sling.













I bought this '###lord' marked holster back in 2005---apparently it is a pattern 1863 holster for both the '60 Colt Army and '58 Remington revolvers.



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Just wondering, on your New York 49 Colt, what the second set of numbers are for on the wedge. I've seen it before, don't know what it means. Great 49's. Thanks, Bill..
 
Hi Bill,

I have no idea what the second number means on the wedge.



Same font as the other serial numbers on the gun except there are five digits of the serial number on the barrel wedge. (01792)

Four digits on the loading lever. (1792)



Four digits on the cylinder pin. (1792)



The wedge on the London Colt has three digits of the serial number (222) The full serial number is 3222.
 
Miscellaneous stuff collected over the years relating to the ‘old guys’.



MISCELLANOUS ITEMS

Officers’ collapsible Pewter Drinking Cup
With Japanned tin storage container.
Purchased Nov 14 1993

GUN TOOL U.S. Model 1863 Combination Gun Tool-
Has been modified on the fold out screwdriver blade---- a “V” notch has been cut out the screwdriver blade. Purchased 1992.

GUN TOOL U.S. Model 1841/1842 Musket Combination Tool—Large U.S stamped on front side of tool, probably a contract manufactured piece. Purchased at Mtl. show 1993.
Ref. Pages 153, 154, 155, in Gun Tools Book.

GUN TOOL Same as piece above, except, small U.S
Which denotes Harpers Ferry Mfg.It came
With 1861 Muir Rifle Musket.

GUN TOOL Springfield Armory conversion of Model 1863 combination tool for Spencer rifle & carbine. Post civil war tool for Spencer conversions of 1860 & 1865 Models. The hole in the tool is for a carrying thong.
NOTE: The longer Spencer tool with the hole is the civil war Model. Purchased 1993. See reference page 91&92 in “Gun Tools” book.



A Civil War period liquor flask and officer's drinking cup.




An 'F' flat Civil War Fife with the liquor flask.----(Musicians & booze)



Civil War cartridges---53 Enfield paper cartridges---American (right) and British (left).
Packaged .36 cal cartridges.
.58 and .577 bullets.



A mix of Spencer cartridges.



This stuff does not belong to me ---but I save these photos in my archives.









Paper label covered "split" wooden block — A drilled wood block split in two halves. Preprinted labels used to seal the block, wire openers, packs covered in shellac to waterproof them. Used only by Colt’s Cartridge Works. Produced from 1860 onward.



Paper label covered "drilled" wooden block — A drilled one-piece wood block. Preprinted labels used to seal the block. Depending on the maker, some packs were shellaced to waterproof them. This method was used by Broux’s Hartford Cartridge Manufacturing Company, Chadwick’s Hartford Cartridge Works, Hazard Powder Company, Leet & Hall, D.C. Sage, Sturtevant & Company, and C.S. arsenals.

 
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Thanks for the positive comments.

Two .36 caliber percussion revolvers (a.k.a -Navy caliber –belt model)
One by Colt--- the other by Remington-Rider.
Both manufactured around the same time. (Early 1863)
Both have fluted cylinders with no cylinder engravings.
Very few of the Remington-Rider 'fluted cylinder' version revolvers were manufactured. (1863-65)
Neither of these models was purchased by the U.S. Government----but private purchases include them in Civil War revolvers that saw CW service.










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Early Double Action Revolver.























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Civil War skin (treated paper) cartridges.

The J&D patent (#33,393 - October 1, 1861) was issued for "an improvement in envelopes for cartridges" and the cartridges made under this patent were officially called "Johnson and Dow's Combustible and Water Proof Cartridges".

The patent calls for a cartridge case of gun-cotton, paper, cloth or other fabric or texture treated with any nitrate and an oxygenating salt to make it "highly inflammable and instantly combustible"...

The finished cartridge was dipped in collodion (also highly inflammable) to make it waterproof.

In addition to the durability of these cartridges, tests and actual field use indicated that the cartridges were easier to load, since no tearing was required and the whole cartridge was simply placed in the bore. One regimental commander later wrote that the regiment adjacent to his on the firing line had been equipped with J&D cartridges and were able to fire three shots for every two of his own regiment.

The first J&D cartridges for .58 cal rifle musket were ordered by the Federal Government on March 24, 1862. Cartridges using the J&D patent were also produced by Elam O. Potter in both rifle musket and revolver calibers.

Julius Hotchkiss patented the skin cartridge, which D.C. Sage (and a few others) manufactured; again waterproof by the nature of the skin. Again the power of the percussion cap penetrates the skin and ignites the powder. Some of the .44 cal. Army packets were labelled “Waterproof Skin Cartridges.”

The patented cartridge by Doctors Doremus and Budd had a powder envelope formed by pressing the powder into molds under high tonnage, attaching them to bullets, and then dipping them into collodion, which waterproofed them, is extremely flammable and easily ignited with a percussion cap.

The combustible cartridges allowed quickness in loading, firing and being waterproof, became useful in the field. You didn’t need good teeth to tear them open and unnecessary handling.



 
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I purchased this Colt bullet mould back in 2007.----I still have questions about it.

Bullet mould for .31 caliber Colt Pocket Model Revolvers ( i.e. the Model 1849 Colt Pocket (PKT) revolver.)

Colt’s Patent on the front hinged sprue cutter.
31PKT (Pocket) stamped on the right side together with the letters stamped C.T.M. stamped below.

One thing I don’t understand about this bullet mould is the two cavity cut outs are both for conical bullets, usually the ones I have seen have one cut out for a conical bullet, and one cut out for a round ball.

I think that this Colt bullet mould is for .31 and .36 cal. conical bullets.
I still don’t know what the C.T.M marking stands for.

NOTE;

I tripped over something today while I was trying to find out if the C.T.M. marking on the .31 cal. Colt bullet mould was an inspector's initials.

C.T.M. Co. = Crittenden & Tibbals Manufacturing Co., 1850-1867

CRITTENDEN & TIBBALS South Coventry, CN
This early manufacturing company produced cartridges during the 1860's and were one of the companies that was combined to produce the UNION METALLIC CAP &: CARTRIDGE CO.

Beginning in 1849 for several years thereafter Crittenden and Tibbals was the major manufacturer of percussion caps in the US.

Frank Krasnickas' book "Cartridges of South Coventry" provides a fairly comprehensive history of Crittenden & Tiballs, and indeed the company started life in 1849 as a manufacturer of percussion caps, their first order being from Sam Colt.

I could not find any reference to them manufacturing bullet moulds----it is thought provoking that a major cartridge and percussion cap manufacturer that dealt with Sam Colt would have C.T.M. stamped on the side of a Colts Patent bullet mould.








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A two cavity mould----a round ball and a conical bullet in a .31 cal Colt bullet mould.



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The two Colt bullet moulds shown below belong to me.

The .31 caliber bullet mould that came with the cased London ’49 Colt has no other markings other than Colt’s Patent on the sprue cutter. It is a two cavity mould for a conical bullet and a round ball.





The second mould with the C.T.M. and 31 PKT markings has two cavities for conical bullets---this photo shows a .31 cal. conical bullet in one cavity----I suspect that the second cavity is for a .36 cal. conical bullet.





This bullet mould is decidedly larger than the .31 cal. London Colt mould.



 
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This was a first time experience for me.
I always try to find out about where my pieces came from----if I can.
I learned this about my Model 1860 Spencer carbine.









The ESA cartouche.



Erskine S. Allin.



I found this exercise with Fred ( Two Flints ) the moderator on Spencer Shooting Society very worthwhile.

I never thought that I would have found the units that my three CW carbines were issued to based on their serial numbers as I did not have the data resource.
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I see a Spencer Carbine, serial # 53,317 as issued to Company A, 3rd Kentucky Volunteer Cavalry, in 1864 (no day or month give) . . . your serial # is 53,299.
Hope this helps,
Fred
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From Fred Grandinetti (Two Flints) moderator on Spencer Shooting Society.
Some time ago I acquired the four volume set of the Springfield Research Service (SRS) Serial Numbers of U.S. Martial Arms. I purchased the set so I could help SSS members identify which unit their original Spencer Carbine or rifle was issued or assigned to during, and perhaps, after the Civil War.

Unfortunately, not all the Spencer serial numbers are listed in the four volume set I own. And, there are gaps between indicated serial numbers. This paragraph is a DISCLAIMER of sorts. As a courtesy to SSS members, I am happy to reveal to you the information I have regarding the serial number of your Spencer carbine or rifle. But, please remember, I am just regurgitating what I read in my SRS volumes with some "unscientific conjecture" on my part . What I do is the following: I take your Spencer serial number and try to place it in between the two closest serial numbers to yours listed in my SRS volume. In most cases, if the serial numbers for the Spencer before and after your own serial number were issued to the same unit, I assume your Spencer went to the same unit. Or, if your Spencer serial number is very, very close to another Spencer serial number, I assume your Spencer went to the same unit. I call this the Two Flints guesstimation I'm guessing and estimating at the same time as to what I believe to be correct information based upon the information I find in my four volume set of SRS And that is the best that I can do for you .

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Regarding my Model 1860 Spencer Carbine;

After the Civil War the Spencer carbine was one of the guns that was chosen for alteration by the Springfield Armory between 1867-1874.

Over 11,000 carbines were altered to accommodate the 50-caliber copper cased rimfire (56-52 and 56-50 interchangeable) cartridge.

A small swivel device known as the “Stabler cut-off “ was added forward of the trigger (see photo) to allow for use as a single shot (it keeps the breech from opening completely).



The modified carbines bear an “ ESA” inspectors mark (Erskine S. Allin ) in an oval cartouche on the left side of the stock.

The usual markings on top of the frame “ SPENCER REPEATING/ RIFLE CO. BOSTON, MASS/ PAT’D MARCH 6 1860”, have long since worn off. (Only slight traces left)

This seven shot repeater was fed through a tubular magazine in the butt and into the receiver. Lowering the operating lever and opening the breech automatically feeds a copper rimfire cartridge into the chamber. The hammer is then cocked and the arm is fired. Dropping the lever after firing then ejects the spent cartridge and brings the next round into position for the next firing.

The Model 1860 Spencer carbine was widely used during the Civil War, and also saw substantial duty during the Indian Wars until the arrival of the Model 1873 Springfield Trapdoor 45-70 caliber carbine.

The Spencer and the Sharps carbines were two of the Civil War carbines that ended up doing double duty throughout the Civil War and post war period.

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A mix of various Spencer cartridges.





 
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Four Civil War period Colt revolvers.



Top to bottom;

-Model 1851 Colt Navy Revolver. (.36 cal.)
This gun has martial markings, it is also known as an “ Navy-Army ” (late third model) manufactured in 1857)
This gun was purchased by the US Government for use by the Army and it is marked accordingly.
Serial number 73501 (all matching serial numbers including the barrel wedge)
‘U S’ is stamped on left side of the frame, which denotes purchase, by the US government.
“M M” inspectors’ initials are stamped on the left grip “MM” were the initials of M.Moulton.
Very clear markings on this revolver including the cylinder scene. (No original blue finish.)


-Model 1861 Colt Navy revolver (.36 cal.) -manufactured in 1861---matching serial numbers 3830 on the frame except for the barrel wedge which is numbered 780.
The markings on this revolver are faint---no visible cylinder scene remaining but the serial number appears on the cylinder.


-Model 1860 Colt Army revolver (.44 cal)—serial number 94346—all matching except for the barrel wedge which is numbered 9848.
Manufactured in early 1863. Very clear markings barrel address and cylinder scene. Plenty of original blue finish and case colours.
‘JT’ cartouche for inspector John Taylor on the left and right grip.
This is a nice ’60 Colt Army.


-Model 1860 Colt Army revolver (.44 cal.)---Serial number 48595 manufactured in early 1862.
The markings are not very visible on this revolver.
Faint markings on the cylinder—faint barrel address.
Matching serial numbers---no serial number on the wedge.
JT cartouche on the left grip.
No original finish but a very nice gray patina.

Some photos of the markings on the '51 Navy and '60 Army.







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'60 Colt Army.







Cartouche Inspector Serial Number Range on Model 1860 Colt Army revolvers.



JT John Taylor S/n 11654 – 143846.



I think that this was written by Charles Pate.

Observed early revolvers have only one cartouche present and it is on the left side of the stock. By October 1861, Mr. John Taylor had been assigned as the Principal Sub-Inspector at Colt and in April of 1862 he was also placed in charge of inspections at the Sharps Rifle Company. Consequently, another sub-inspector handled the day-to-day supervision of the Colt inspections and at the final inspection his cartouche was also placed on the stock, on the left side, while Taylor’s “JT”cartouche was placed on the right. It appears this was the point at which two cartouches were first placed on the Model 1860, for with one exception no pistols have been recorded by the author with a cartouche on the right of the grip before the 42000 serial number range. There are a few cases where the same cartouche is on both sides of the grips.

12 Ordnance Department letters show Mr. Taylor was very highly regarded by the Ordnance officers responsible for inspection of contract arms. The tremendous amount of inspection work being done and the small number of Ordnance officers available meant such 'civilians' were badly needed.

The '60 Colt Army shown below was manufactured in early 1862. (S/n 48595)
It has one inspector's cartouche on the right grip which I think is 'JT' for John Taylor.



Two Colts from two different wars.

 
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This post is for they that have an interest in ’51 Colt Navy revolvers.
Extracts from a talk given by Nathan L. Swayze to The American Society of Arms Collectors in the fall of 1971 in Houston Texas.

Swayze wrote a book on the ’51 Colt Navy in 1967. (Shown below)

It is still the ‘go to’ book on this subject today. (I bought my used first edition copy in 1990.)



I only own one '51 Colt Navy.
The subject of collecting '51 Colt Navies can get pretty involved as is indicated below.







THERE ARE FIVE DIFFERENT BARREL ADDRESSES:

The top barrel address is the "early New York Address." Note that Colt has not as yet acquired the dubious title of "Colonel," and he hasn't as yet added the "U. S. America." We all know that Colt was a shrewd person, and I think we have an example here. Hartford, Conn. was - at that time - (with apologies to Jonathan Peck) a relatively small and unknown town in comparison to New York, which was the business and financial center of the U. S. A. Colt did maintain sales offices in New York; so he took advantage of the "Big Town" name by including it in the barrel address.

The barrel next from the top is the "Hartford Address" - same as the top address, except that he substituted Hartford for New York. I haven't the slightest idea why Colt deleted the "Big Town" name for Hartford. Maybe Hartford had grown a bit!

The third barrel from the top is the "Late New York Address." Note that Colt has added the title of "Colonel" before his name. It certainly doesn't denote a military title as we would think of it. Prior to the Civil War, Colt was appointed Major Commandant of the "First Troop of Governor's Horse Guard," which was more an honorary organization than a military organization. Anyway, far be it from Colt to lose out on a moniker like that, for it was certainly impressive - particularly to the Military, who were good customers. Also note that he has added the "U. S. America." Maybe this addition was due to his expansion of sales to foreign countries.

The barrel address on the next to bottom barrel is the "London Address." This address appears on those guns made in the London Armory. Note that the long dashes on each end of the address have what appears to be spear heads. Also note that there is a period after "Address," a colon after "Colonel," and a period after "Colt" and "London." I'm certainly not an expert on puncuation; however, this certainly doesn't look correct to me. However, if any of you have ever read any of Colt's correspondence, you will know that he was a past master at butchering the King's English, and an extremely poor speller - so I guess these periods and colons figure!

The address on the bottom barrel is what I call the "Hartford-London Address" - meaning those guns that were made in the Hartford factory for sale specifically on the London market. If you see a '51 Navy with this London address, and you want to know if it was made in Hartford or London, a quick way to determine this (without checking other physical variations) is a glance to see whether or not the long dashes have the spear points.

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1. There are five different barrel addresses

2. There are three different types of front sights

3. There are two thicknesses of the loading lever catch under the muzzle end of the barrel.

4. There are three different types of loading notch in the barrel lug.

5. There are two thicknesses of the barrel lug.

6. There are three types of frames.

7. There are two sizes of cylinder pins.

8. There are two different designs of knurling on the hammer spur.

9. There are two types of back straps.

10. There are four shapes of trigger guards.

11. There are three types of wood grips.

12. There are two styles of serial number stampings.

13. Some of the loading lever rammer screws enter from the left, and some from the right.

14. Orrnsby's signature appears on some of the cylinders and not on others.

15. The Colt patent stamping is in three different locations.

16. The "36 Cal." stamping appears on some of the trigger guards and not on others.

17. Some of the triggers are short, and some are long.

18. Some of the release catches on the fore end of the loading lever are hurled, and others are not.

This is the link for the stuff above;

http://americansocietyofarmscollectors.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/B023_Swayze.pdf

This is a link for another article that Swayzie did regarding the London Colt story.
THE LONDON-MADE '51 COLT NAVY WITH A COMPARISON TO ITS HARTFORD-MADE COUNTERPART.

http://americansocietyofarmscollectors.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/B031_Swayze.pdf

Some stuff regarding The American Society of Arms Collectors.

http://americansocietyofarmscollectors.org/about-us/

http://americansocietyofarmscollectors.org/resources/articles/2/
 
I scanned the 21 pages in Nathan L. Swayze's book in the chapter on '51 Colt Navy Martials.
Who writes books like this anymore?
Is our current collector info totally dependent on the old guys that did the research and wrote the books years ago and have since died?

Here are a few of the pages from that book.
(They are a little disjointed doing it this way----instead of one after another for 21 pages.)

Written in 1967.


















My Martial '51 Navy is serial numbered 73501---close to the end of the Navy Armies serial number range of 80000.



 
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Martial markings on early ’51 Colt Navy-Navy revolvers.

-A small “U.S.” is stamped on the left frame under the Colt Patent stamping.

-“U.S.N.” is stamped on the metal butt portion of the iron back strap.

-Occasionally, an inspector’s initials are stamped on either the metal butt portion of the iron back strap, or the wood portion of the grips.

-Occasionally, an anchor is stamped on the breech end of the top barrel flat.








These are not mine---they were sold on RIA.
RIA's description;

The bottom of the back strap is stamped "U S N" and the bottom left side of the grip heel is stamped with the U.S. Navy inspector's mark "I/GWR" (Commander George W. Rodgers).







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Manufactured in 1856, this is an example of a scarce Colt Model 1851 Navy percussion revolver stamped "U.S.N./J.L.H." on the butt.

Black leather flap holster marked "MADE BY/J.I. PITTMAN/N-Y" on the upper front.









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I only have one U.S.N. marked piece in my collection---the Dahlgren bayonet shown below.







Navy Inspector Daniel Reynolds’s initials "DR" in script and stamped on the rear of the pommel.



Ames produced 1,800 of these U.S. Navy ‘Dahlgren’ Bowie knife type bayonets between 1861 and 1864.

This is a link to an interesting article on John Dahlgren----and this bayonet.

http://www.vgca.net/education/JohnDahlgrenPlymouthRifle.pdf
 
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johnl,

Thanks for your comment.
At this point I am not planning to leave my collection to my heirs.
I believe that this stuff should belong to collectors that have a passion and knowledge of what these pieces are all about and know how to look after these old guys.

At some time in the not too distant future my quest will be to find new owners for my collection.
I also have a WWII collection ---German---American---some Russian which I will also have to deal with.

Between 2013 and 2015 I have traded and sold six items from my WWII collection including two 12(3)s.
I have two more 12(3)s left to deal with.

I received the cased London Colt and the Remington-Ryder D.A. New Model Belt Revolver (shown above) in two of the trades for U.S. WWII pieces.

My collecting probably started in the mid to late 1960s with the Starr and Remington revolvers shown below purchased in 1971.




My last purchase in 2011 was an 1845 dated Model 1840 Ames manufactured cavalry sabre from a dealer in North Carolina.
It is a very nice piece---with a W.A. Thornton acceptance stamp.



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I have not been adding to my collection since that last purchase in 2011.
 
A possibly new project?????

Years ago I bought an older collector’s Gun Report magazines.
I had previously never really looked closely at these publications----and there are a lot of them.

Based on what I recently found I may have purchased this stuff in 1995.
The earliest magazine that I have recently found is dated 1962.

The people that wrote articles or the dealers that advertised in this magazine --- interesting to see who is still around.
Interesting to see the prices back then---nice stuff was definitely not cheap.

Major book authors wrote articles in this magazine in the period well before the Internet.
On one of their covers in 1995 it suggests “40 years serving firearms collectors around the world.”

I have just started going through 1994 looking for interesting articles to scan.
I don’t have the Gun Report Index so I have to go through each magazine to see if there are articles of interest.

I 'might like' to keep certain interesting articles in a digital file for future reference.

What a great resource these magazines were to collectors.
The Gun Report went out of business a few years ago.

Some examples. (Including the ribbon that the previous owner used to separate the years--very organized!)







 
If I remember right, The Gun Report included an issue each year that had an index of the articles from the previous year.

Regards,
Powderman
 
Great collection, thanks for sharing the pictures as well as the P53 information. On a civil war note I was doing some genealogy work on my wife' family where it was mentioned in the family bible of an individual that had been killed in the American Civil war with date of his death. Through some luck and jigs and reels I was contacted by a gentleman in the States who was looking for some info on the same individual. As it turns out a MacDonalds was being built near Manassas and 5 Union soldier remains had been discovered. It is believed that one of the bodies was my wife's relative and the men in the graves had died at the Battle of Blackburns Ford , a day before the Battle of the First Bull run making the relative one of the first 19 or so Union casualties of the American Civil War. As the gentleman who provided the info was a historian I recieved a video of the exhumation and subsequent research as to who the men possibly were and why. The relative who must have been wounded was delivered a buck and ball load to the side of his head as it is plain to see the pellet and ball exit wound in the skull. The relative was a Canadian but had family in and from the States.
 
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