I Over Pack For Day Hunts!!

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Hey CGN,

With trying this Tube Of You thing out figured I'd post this one that went along with my Mid December Gear post.

Let me know what you think as I figure out how to operate a mouse as good as a trigger!


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I pack a lot of stuff for a day hunt but I feel you're carrying a lot of weight that you don't need to be.

Imo keep your ammo with the rifle and only bring the one that you need. Carrying 2 different calibers is nuts

Ditch the jet boil and just use the pocket rocket. Carry extra fuel if you think it uses more. The pocket rocket can also be used as a torch to light a fire if need be.

I would ditch the tipi and ground sheet and just carry a lightweight tarp if it was me. You can still pitch it with trekking poles and have a good shelter ot just wrap it up around you in a downpour.

There's a few things I may have missed, kill kit? Contractor bags? Fire starting kit.
I would also ditch the extra Nalgene lids for another water container like a hydrapak or something nice and small
It's definitely nice to be prepared but it's all too easy to pack your fears and end up carrying a bunch of stuff you don't need. Your knees and shoulders will thank you in the long run
 
I know right, packing the what if's!!

I do love to hear everyone's thoughts, because it all comes from different situations or mindsets.

Maybe I can let you into mine a little;

Imo keep your ammo with the rifle and only bring the one that you need. Carrying 2 different calibers is nuts
Fact-however once bitten twice shy. This is something I've only done the last bit as I transition rifles/cals. It will not always be like this. I also never store ammo with the rifles for safety reasons. Personal choice.

Ditch the jet boil and just use the pocket rocket. Carry extra fuel if you think it uses more. The pocket rocket can also be used as a torch to light a fire if need be.
Oh I know. Used it as a torch in the past. One is leaving for sure once I figured out which is lighter in the end run when it comes to total weight with fuel.


I would ditch the tipi and ground sheet and just carry a lightweight tarp if it was me. You can still pitch it with trekking poles and have a good shelter ot just wrap it up around you in a downpour.

This is a funny one, you know the ground sheet and tipi are dang near same weight as some tarp options. Ground sheet acts as a glassing pad, plus I own both and don't need to fork out more money on a tarp. Though I am always hunting for a lightweight tarp lol. It's something I play around with and game in my mind.

There's a few things I may have missed, kill kit? Contractor bags? Fire starting kit.
All with the everything bag. Though I don't use contractors bags, I leave them in the truck. No dedicated fire kit with the stove, 3+lighters and TP.

I would also ditch the extra Nalgene lids for another water container like a hydrapak or something nice and small
Way lighter, and really doesn't take up any space extra. No need for another water bottle.

As mentioned though, alot is carry over from my expedition pack/keeping sheep shape for the next season. It also let's me test and tune for the longer trips. Probably why I don't have an issues with 30ish lbs when leading up to it I was 65-70lbs
 
I hear ya man. All in all it's a great load out. One thing I always do is mark my fuel cannister with a knife every time I do a boil. It really gives a baseline to how many burns you can get out of one cannister. I always seem to boil 500ml so it should be pretty accurate. I'd like to make a decent wind screen for my pocket rocket stove that I use with a ti cup to increase fuel efficiency.
 
I am the minimalist when it comes to day hunts lol, if it can’t fit in my small shoulder bag or on my belt it doesn’t come with me. Basically on my belt I take a first aid kit, an extra mag of ammo, ear pro/gloves, gps, range finder, deer call or two, possibly a 2 way radio. My small and I mean small shoulder bag has bear spray, tp, drag rope, tool roll with the bare minimum for field dressing, snacks, 3 piece cleaning rod and jag/patches. If I need to bring something extra I’ve got empty pouches on my bag and belt, or I’ve got a small day pack I’ll swap instead of the shoulder bag. I bring a Nalgene bottle with water and the usual crap that’s in my pockets, depending on the weather I might have a rain shell stuffed though my shoulder bag strap at my back that I also use as folded up to sit on if I’m in an ambush hunt spot.

In general I’m never that far of a hike to my truck so I leave a big pack wit game bags etc, plus more food and water and anything else I might need for retrieving game in the truck. Have a basic fire starter kit in my first aid kit, for me less is more where I hunt. I like to be light and able to move quick if I want to cover ground, I carry weight at work and am constantly trying to minimize the gear I hump around the bush so it’s become a thing I’ve carried over to hunting.
 
Sorry Bud but I couldn't watch all that. Day hunt-- leave camp or truck in the dark get back in or at dark. For that I don't even use a pack, cargo pants, a fly fishing type vest, fleece jacket or 2, rain/wind jacket. In the pockets and pouches I can carry all I need for the day, and a night if I have too.
 
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I hear ya man. All in all it's a great load out. One thing I always do is mark my fuel cannister with a knife every time I do a boil. It really gives a baseline to how many burns you can get out of one cannister. I always seem to boil 500ml so it should be pretty accurate. I'd like to make a decent wind screen for my pocket rocket stove that I use with a ti cup to increase fuel efficiency.

My thoughts too on the wind screen. It's either that or the efficiency of the burner at altitude. At least that's the only other thought I had.
 
Sorry Bud but I couldn't watch all that. Day hunt-- leave camp or truck in the dark get back in or at dark. For that I don't even use a pack, cargo pants, a fly fishing type vest, fleece jacket or 2, rain/wind jacket. In the pockets and pouches I can carry all I need for the day, and a night if I have too.

Ha, I remember I was like that once. I've had a few outings that turned into an episode of Gilligan's Island I swear lol. Also like the title, I over pack and I know it.
 
In general I’m never that far of a hike to my truck so I leave a big pack wit game bags etc, plus more food and water and anything else I might need for retrieving game in the truck. Have a basic fire starter kit in my first aid kit, for me less is more where I hunt. I like to be light and able to move quick if I want to cover ground, I carry weight at work and am constantly trying to minimize the gear I hump around the bush so it’s become a thing I’ve carried over to hunting.

I do tend to go a bit further from the truck just to avoid truck hunters. Though I swear they went further this year due to lack of snow. I know what you mean with work weight, still pack what ifs it seems.
 
I do tend to go a bit further from the truck just to avoid truck hunters. Though I swear they went further this year due to lack of snow. I know what you mean with work weight, still pack what ifs it seems.

I used to think I’d go on these epic hikes and then I started hunting haha, I’ve just found I’m more productive when I target specific areas on foot. Park the truck and spend time hiking it sitting in high traffic spots. Majority of them seem to be areas with lots of truck hunters but they don’t get out of their trucks, it’s funny to hike up onto a ridge or area and watch them buzz around not finding the deer.

If I didn’t have a field dressing kit I’d probably ditch the shoulder bag, every year I empty out my gear looking to see what I can eliminate. Same at work lol.
 
When I was a teenager, I became familiar with the Ten Essentials of Backpacking:

Extra food
Extra clothing
A space blanket and some garbage bags
First Aid/necessary meds
Sunscreen/Sunglasses
Map, compass, GPS navigator
Knife
Fire starter
Matches
Flashlight

My hunting kit includes a pull through cleaning kit, deer drag, bigger knife, stone, TP, notepaper and pencil, candies, wire and zap straps for repairs. That much fits in a fanny pack! My water is either a military canteen and cup, or lately a Nalgene in a specific carrier.
 
When I was a teenager, I became familiar with the Ten Essentials of Backpacking:

Extra food
Extra clothing
A space blanket and some garbage bags
First Aid/necessary meds
Sunscreen/Sunglasses
Map, compass, GPS navigator
Knife
Fire starter
Matches
Flashlight

My hunting kit includes a pull through cleaning kit, deer drag, bigger knife, stone, TP, notepaper and pencil, candies, wire and zap straps for repairs. That much fits in a fanny pack! My water is either a military canteen and cup, or lately a Nalgene in a specific carrier.

How far away from the truck dp you tend to hunt?
 
I used to think I’d go on these epic hikes and then I started hunting haha, I’ve just found I’m more productive when I target specific areas on foot. Park the truck and spend time hiking it sitting in high traffic spots. Majority of them seem to be areas with lots of truck hunters but they don’t get out of their trucks, it’s funny to hike up onto a ridge or area and watch them buzz around not finding the deer.

If I didn’t have a field dressing kit I’d probably ditch the shoulder bag, every year I empty out my gear looking to see what I can eliminate. Same at work lol.

My journal, I keep my gear list in it. Usually if I don't use something after 3 trips, other then like a first aid kit, it's gone. At least that's for my long trip bag.

Ha, seems the same type of truck hunters here. I did do a rant about them after a local special hunt;


 
My journal, I keep my gear list in it. Usually if I don't use something after 3 trips, other then like a first aid kit, it's gone. At least that's for my long trip bag.

Ha, seems the same type of truck hunters here. I did do a rant about them after a local special hunt;



I honestly have zero issues with truck hunting, one of my biggest mule bucks was shot from the road a couple years back. I do it all depending on my mood, truck, quad, foot, sitting, stalking, bait. It’s all hunting, why limit yourself. My outlook on hunting has changed a bit since I started and I’m sure it will continue to do so.
 
I pack a lot of stuff for a day hunt but I feel you're carrying a lot of weight that you don't need to be.

Imo keep your ammo with the rifle and only bring the one that you need. Carrying 2 different calibers is nuts

Ditch the jet boil and just use the pocket rocket. Carry extra fuel if you think it uses more. The pocket rocket can also be used as a torch to light a fire if need be.

I would ditch the tipi and ground sheet and just carry a lightweight tarp if it was me. You can still pitch it with trekking poles and have a good shelter ot just wrap it up around you in a downpour.

There's a few things I may have missed, kill kit? Contractor bags? Fire starting kit.
I would also ditch the extra Nalgene lids for another water container like a hydrapak or something nice and small
It's definitely nice to be prepared but it's all too easy to pack your fears and end up carrying a bunch of stuff you don't need. Your knees and shoulders will thank you in the long run

^ +1

All of these items and some LW Rain Gear, extra socks, Walking Sticks, Load Bearing Panel, MSR Micro Lantern, Kill Kit/Game Bags, TP (oh yes it’s an essential folks!) and the days food/snacks get packed into a 3000 Ci frame pack. Rifle Carrier/Sling attached to the frame in case I need to cover ground and using the Sticks above. It also allows any layers that I shed or possibly need to be stowed away neatly in Sea-to-Summit compression sacks keeping them dry.

The Sil Tarp is $$$ - quickly propped up with the walking sticks and pegged and/or tied down it allows you to get out of the wind, rain or sleet making the days sh**ty weather more bearable.

Another +1 on ditching the Jet Boil - Mine routinely failed in the field below 0 deg, so I replaced mine with a MSR PR2. It has a better igniting system over the regular model for colder weather. Tea/Coffee and Oatmeal have all been prepped afield down to -10 without issue. It barely takes up the size of an avg coffee mug in the pack and having a hot drink or food can make the day better.

Load Bearing Panel - you can pack out a WT, BB, Coyote or if i’m lucky to encounter a Wolf someday either off the bone or whole dependant on which of the four it is. I use it in off-season to/for training up to about #75lbs with sandbags 3x a week varying 3-10km walk/hike's.

All in? - avg of #15-#22lbs incl the Rifle slung to the pack. Of course depending on what I add or remove for the day.

Not bad considering if I was in the 180-200lb range weight wise (which I’m not) I’d be carrying that body weight anyways. Keep in mind the pack can be compressed down using it’s own compression straps so it has a minimal profile.

I’m sure I could pack it down even more and fit into say a 1800-2200 Ci day type pack (no frame) which I would consider more of a half-day pack. Maybe I’ll look into that for this season? I might lose the ability to have the rifle slung to the pack, but that would be a minor inconvenience.

For now I’m happy with what I’ve narrowed down going into my Pack and having the ability to be out Sunrise to Sunset comfortably and no matter what the day brings.
 
I do a lot of hiking, so when i started hunting, i really just carry my hiking pack, and separately i've got my hunting haversack.

My haversack a small leather pouch that i wear cross body. I usually call it my "man purse" . I like it because it has a lid flap that keeps everything dry, and inside there are different dividers and pockets to keep everything organised. I am able to reach in an easily find whatever item i need without having to look, because i always keep everything in the same spot.
So inside i have a lighter, whistle, extra ammo holder, hunting knife, compact binoculars, compass, map, a small measuring tape for measuring tracks, and a waterproofed print-out of a track size chart.

All my guns have slings so i can wear them on my shoulder.

Then i put my hiking pack on. It's a leather backpack, also with lots of handy pockets. In there i keep: small first aid kit, swiss army knife, bottle of hand sanitizer, lighter/ferro rod, roll of TP, water bottle, small wool blanket, roll of paracord, small folding saw, sometimes a hatchet, deck of mini cards, and b/c i'm a religious nut as well as a gun nut, a mini bible.
When going for a specific trip, i'll usually pack some sort of food option, and that can vary.
I have a soft-sided insulated lunch box that can either fit in the hiking pack or clip onto the outside. I'll put the food in there, obviously, and then also stuff into the pack whatever hardware i need for food prep. Sometimes, for example, we'll just make a fire and cook hot dogs. In that case, all i need is the dogs, buns and toppings in the lunch box, as we'll just cut branches for roasting sticks. Other times we want soup or pasta, so i might bring a small biolite rocket stove, or a pot. One time i made homemade burger patties, and then packed the ingredients for frybread for buns, so for hardware i packed a fold-out grill and a small cast iron fry pan. So the food and food hardware vary. I really like how easy my kelly kettle works, but it is the bulkiest of the hardware to pack.

I found this to be true when i worked construction too - there were always guys who are minimalists, who carry the fewest tools and the least weight they can get away with. Then there's the maximalists like me - i always had a full, heavy tool belt. It was heavier to carry all day, but i preferred that to having to go back to the truck a hundred times a day to get that one tool i was missing.

Similarly, my gear altogether probably weights between 20-30lb, and i guess that could be considered a lot, but i'm used to it and am conditioned to it, and in any case consider it a worthy price to pay to get the experience i want. When i go on a hunt or just a hike, i want to be able to stop, relax, enjoy a nice view, prepare and eat a good meal, a hot cup of coffee, maybe even take a nap, or, if i was lucky enough to have the mrs. join me that day, who knows what else!

Bottom line, you pay for the weight you carry, and each guy will pay the price of admission for the ride they want to go on.
 
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