i purchase collet dies, info pls

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hey guys ive bought some LEE Collet dies for the 708.

I havnt used this type before, always used the basic/standard Lee dies.

Whats the go and whats correct and incorrect ... any tips welcomed


cheers

WL
 
Just set it according to the instructions and DON'T run the ram up without a case. It'll pinch the collet fingers closed and not let a case slide up into the die. You have to take it apart and spread them back with a tapered punch. No lube on cases and you can adjust neck tension a little but turning the die in or out. Don't turn it in too much or it can pop the top cap out and install it in your roof. They're great dies for the price.
 
Pretty much what he said.
I love them, I pretty much won't buy or build a rifle in a caliber I can't get a collet die for.
I set mine up in my RCBS press so that it will still cam over, even though I am pretty sure the instructions say not to. I adjust the height of the die with a piece of brass in the shell holder to a height where I am happy with a small amount of force it takes to have the handle on the press cam over.
For me I have found this to give me the most consistent results.

The best part for me is no lube, no BS
 
Just set it according to the instructions and DON'T run the ram up without a case. It'll pinch the collet fingers closed and not let a case slide up into the die. You have to take it apart and spread them back with a tapered punch. No lube on cases and you can adjust neck tension a little but turning the die in or out. Don't turn it in too much or it can pop the top cap out and install it in your roof. They're great dies for the price.

Good to know.

I just ordered some from X-Reload and hope to put them to use right away.
 
sweet guys

ive loaded up 7 rounds tonight to set it up an check it out.... 3 @ Min and 4 A grain up, mostly just too see, expecting mid range to work good enough!

seems to be a good thing, just have to be careful to put enough pressure on the end to size the case, otherwise its a wasted primer when it comes seating time LOL... 2 primers down aint too bad!

Thanks u blokes

WL
 
watch this set of videos from ammosmith.

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Yup, doesn't take much effort to resize the neck with those dies. Sometimes it feels like you've done nothing.

A few users wrecked their dies 'cause they were probably expecting to feel the same kind of resistance like FL sizing or installed it like a regular die and bottomed it out on an empty shell plate. Then they blamed LEE for a defective die or crappy design when they blew out the cap.
 
sweet guys

ive loaded up 7 rounds tonight to set it up an check it out.... 3 @ Min and 4 A grain up, mostly just too see, expecting mid range to work good enough!

seems to be a good thing, just have to be careful to put enough pressure on the end to size the case, otherwise its a wasted primer when it comes seating time LOL... 2 primers down aint too bad!

Thanks u blokes

WL

What do you mean wasted primer? I deprime and reuse unfired primers all the time. Last night I deprimed 120 cases, as they were neck sized for my old rifle (sold it). Tonight I'm going to reuse the primers on 100 new lapua cases.
 
Read the instructions, just about everything you know about conventional dies will be wrong with the collet die.

Get a Redding Body die to use instead of the FL die for when the cases need the shoulder bumped and body massaged. I lost a lot of expensive brass to split necks before I figured that out.

If you seat to or into the lands be prepared for debulleted loads. It doesn't mean its going to happen, but the chances go way up if you are miles from a cleaning rod.

The collet dies make straight cases, but I never found the seaters to be as good as others. That usually left me using the Lee collet and either a RCBS or Redding seater, whatever I had. The O-ring lock rings are junk unless you like to set your die every time you change it. Doesn't matter on the collet, but it does on the seater.

Theres pluses and minuses to everything, but somehow I never seem to use my collet dies anymore.
 
Cheers for that Info Dogleg!
The Lee have Sleeves which I put the Die into an not have to Change anything else once its set up, so that may help.

I was wondering about the shoulder bump, in future..... Redding body Die the G O ?


Read the instructions, just about everything you know about conventional dies will be wrong with the collet die.

Get a Redding Body die to use instead of the FL die for when the cases need the shoulder bumped and body massaged. I lost a lot of expensive brass to split necks before I figured that out.

If you seat to or into the lands be prepared for debulleted loads. It doesn't mean its going to happen, but the chances go way up if you are miles from a cleaning rod.

The collet dies make straight cases, but I never found the seaters to be as good as others. That usually left me using the Lee collet and either a RCBS or Redding seater, whatever I had. The O-ring lock rings are junk unless you like to set your die every time you change it. Doesn't matter on the collet, but it does on the seater.

Theres pluses and minuses to everything, but somehow I never seem to use my collet dies anymore.
 
What do you mean wasted primer? I deprime and reuse unfired primers all the time. Last night I deprimed 120 cases, as they were neck sized for my old rifle (sold it). Tonight I'm going to reuse the primers on 100 new lapua cases.

Yeah??

I thought it could be contaminiated with stuff maybe an present a misfire... on a big beast :)

WL
 
The very nice thing about collet dies is that they will not stretch cases as traditional expander balls will sometime do when being withdrawn during the sizing operation.....otoh....you will still be required to check brass flow and potential thickening of necks...
 
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