"...I think I would like to try competitive precision shooting"

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Sometimes the lines get a bit blurred on this forum when it comes to defining "Precision Rifles" or "Precision Shooting". The terms "Benchrest", "F-Class", Tactical", "Sniper" and "Service Rifle" get tossed around and many folks wanting to poke their noses into competitive shooting are a bit timid about where to start or what to try.

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300M and dead calm winds... a cake walk? Hmmm. No 50-10V's, trickier than meets the eyes!


Each discipline has one common theme: The aim (no pun intended) is to place your shot exactly where you want it, and success is judged by those that are most effective at doing so. The ultimate pursuit of accuracy falls on the shoulders of benchrest shooters, where specialized equipment and attention to minute detail is paramount to success. Placing that shot is not possible without good equipment, but more importantly, you must have a shooter that has the skill to place that shot as well. Just as few of us could go out and win a PGA event with the best clubs in the world, few shooters could win their very first Benchrest or F-Class match with the best rifle and ammo, but success is relative to the quality of the best shooters there and most matches are more about fun than dead-serious competition.

As this forum has demonstrated on many occasions, people would like to invest in equipment that will provide the best accuracy they can afford, and with few frames of reference, the neophyte precision rifle consumer is often at the mercy of salesmen, sales propaganda, anonymous forum opinions, or even simply how a rifle "looks". The reality is that most factory rifles produce accuracy that is adequate for their intended purposes, and the amount of money spent is no indicator of how well they will shoot.

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our own CGN "CyaN1de" putting on a clinic at the BC Provincial F-CLass Championships

Like most elite sportsmen, the tools of the trade for ultimate precision shooting are often composed of customized and specialized components that you simply will not find on the shelf at "Bubba's Grub "n Guns". The problem is, there are few one-stop-shopping sources for these components. It is almost impossible to learn about F-Class shooting from hanging gout at Walmart.

The result is that when someone shows up for their first Benchrest or F-Class match, they will typically see firearms that bear little if any resemblance to the rifles they see on the shelf at the local sporting goods store. This is very intimidating and makes new shooters feel inadequate and uncomfortable. Frankly, the money invested in many of these rigs is frightening.

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CGN "Unibomber" drilling them home with a factory Remington 700, AICS and S&B scope!

It need not be!

We have a precision shooting sport that was born in Canada, and is now one of the most popular and fastest growing shooting sports in the world: "F-Class".

This is a precision sport shot with a centerfire rifle, using an optical sight (scope) and either a front rest (ala benchrest) or a bipod. In addition, a rear bag is used as well. The sport is shot prone, although disabled shooters can be accommodated. The objective is to place shots as close to the center of the target as possible and point values are less the farther from the center you go. Basically, try and hit the bull's eye!

The targets are large enough that a scope of 10X will suffice, but more is better! The targets themselves are pulled down after each shot (the targets are on retractable frames) and a bright shot inticator is stuck in the bullet hole to show you where you hit. In addition, a score value is displayed aoround the edge with different positions representing different scores (a marker at 3 o'clock means you hit the bull!).

You shoot your next shot when the target is pulled back up.

Shooters are generally paired-up two per target and one keeps score for the other. You take turns shooting at each exposure of the target. It is a great way to learn from other shooters and a great way to learn to read conditions. One learns VERY fast!

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Vokes Rifle Range: I defy anyone to show me a more beautiful rifle range in the world! Our dry BC summer shows in the normally emerald grass.

Being from the range where F-Class was born and the late George Farquharson (after whom F-Class was named) was a life-long member, it seemed particularly important to me that we remain committed to the promotion, advancement and refinement of the sport.

In Kamloops BC we hold a number of matches each year and two matches are tailor made for shooters wanting to try competitive shooting for the first time: The "Frosty Farky 300M match" and now the "Running of the V-Bulls!" match.

In the V-Bulls match, we will be introducing two new classes to allow new shooters a far better chance of success with the equipment they own - without having to invest in all that expensive specialized equipment.Firstly, We are introducing a "sporter/factory" class that will allow anyone with a factory rifle and a scope to come out and compete on equal terms with others using the same type of equipment.

Stevens 200's in 223 will not have to compete against full-on custom 6BR's, and the targets used will be more representative of the accuracy of a factory rifle. This match will be 300, 400 and 500M with .8 and 1MOA targets being used. The difference will be determined by the nut behind the bolt, not the value of the gun.

Secondly, Tactical shooters (whose focus is a more applied type of shooting) will be able to come out an compete in F-Class using the target to which they are most familiar and used to using, the Figure 12/14.

I would certainly invite and encourage anyone interested in giving competitive "precision" rifle shooting a try, to come out to one or both of these matches. The Farky is a popular match and fills quickly. The V-Bulls match is new, and this will be fist first annual.

The experience one can gain from coming out and chewing the fat with experienced precision shooters and seeing what accomplished shooters use and recommend is an education in itself. Actually participating in one of these matches will teach you more than I can possibly express in this long-winded posting.

F-Class is a CANADIAN sport! It was created by one of us!

If you would like to know more about this sport or these matches, please feel free to email (NO PM's Please!) me or post your question here for all to see. CyaN1de is the Fullbore director of the Kamloops Target Sports Association and he is arguably the best F-Class shooter in Canada. He and I would love to see you come out and try this incredibly fun and addictive sport!

Edit, as of 10 April 2010

A few great things have been happening since I posted this thread that will hopefully make it much easier to come out and give this sport a try (FYI, I have to put in an atta-girl for my wife... today she was dragged to her first ever F-Class match. She considers this "my" thing and has had little interest... She placed first in her class at the Mission season opener, with a rifle she'd never used before, much less in competition!!!)

In BC, we formally adopted the Factory Sporter Class. This means that if you have an unmodified factory rifle (original unmodified factory action and barrel, trigger adjustment is fine and any stock is fine), you can come out ant compete on a larger, more forgiving target that is WELL within the capabilities of most factory rifles. You need not spend thousands on custom stuff.

Secondly, we have the BC and Alberta F-Class schedules on-line in a format that is fairly easy to figure out. You can easily see where and when the next F-Class matches will be held. (Hint!! The "Sierra" matches held in each province are a 300M match only... no very long distance stuff... these are fantastic first-time matches.

Thirdly, in BC, the Mission R&G club and the Kamloops Target Sports Association will be holding beginner clinics in competitive precision fullbore shooting each year. We will alternate locations on an annual basis to maximize exposure. This sell-out event was just held in Mission; if sufficient demand exists, we may hold a second clinic in the fall in Kamloops.

While I think trying to compete with Dad's old open-sight 30-30 might be a bit tough, I do want to emphasize that we have specifically tried to appeal to shooters that are curious about experiencing this sport, without having to feel inadequate or self-conscious about equipment. I certainly encourage you to come on out with what you have and give this a try!
 
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Well done Ian. Newbies who screw up their courage to show up at their first match deserve the sort of respect your new classes represent. It ain't easy to show up at a match where you might not know anyone, can't recognize half the kit on the line, and can barely see the target w/ the naked eye. Most of the big matches that I've been to seem to operate on the assumption that everybody know the ropes. That can be enough to make a timid sort never even take his gear out of the trunk! Some day I'm going to make it to Volkes. Might need to do it twice- this first time I'll be too busy qawking at the view to shoot!
 
Matt, It would be an honour and a privilege to meet you in person! I hope we can entice you to come out one of these seasons!

Cheers,

Ian
 
Good Post.

Good post Ian ,
The grass at Volks was sure a lot greener in the spring:eek: When Mick finishes off my 5R i will be at as many matches as i can attend next spring , Hope you guys are not too hard on a newbie :)
 
Thanks for the great post, Ian. I'd certainly like to know more about these matches - times, dates, rules, etc. Sounds like something I might like to try before it becomes completely impossible to maneuver my creaky old bod into the prone position. Is there a web site or bulletin or whatever?
 
Excellent post!
There are many times where I have talked to people who seem to think a person needs mega bucks to get into a certain type of shooting competition, but no matter how much you spend, trigger time is the big key to it.
This rifle ( I'm sure many will recognize it) has been around the block, but will put 10 rounds into less than .5MOA , so it is accurate if not ugly!!
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The rig less scope was well under $1,000, and deals like this come up more often than some would think!
Cat
 
Cat is bang-on.

Our EE is filled with excellent rifles that on their own - or with a few modest changes - could be full-on competitive rifles. Most importantly however, if you have any rifle and can shoot a 4'X4' square at 300M, you have the basis for coming out and experiencing what it is like to shoot in a match. You are guaranteed to make excellent acquaintances, and like most F-Class guys, I bring an extra gun with me in case someone would like to have a go.

We held a great introductory clinic in the Spring and we intend to make this a regular occurrence, but our club is dedicated to mentoring ALL new shooters. We are more than happy to welcome any shooter that has never even spelled "F-Class" before.

I warn you, it is highly addictive!

Ian
 
Very addictive indeed. Went to the MPRA Provincials last weekend with 3 other local guys... very intimidating at first sight of the range/shooters.
But everyone was very friendly and helpful to the most extent.
2 of our guys were even loaned top-notch rifles to shoot at 900 & 1000 yards to replace their sporting rifles.
All throughout the event, we had our own coach to help us learn and feel comfortable.
Never met so many great guys in one place.
We'll be back again next year and many years to come.
 
Good post. I agree that the way to find out about f-class or benchrest competition is to show up at matches. There is no way that you will not be welcomed with open arms.

Of course if you show up at your first match you will have some insecurities in what you are getting into. But that will quickly pass when an experienced shooter shows you the ropes.
I got into short range benchrest shooting because the Lethbridge Fish And Games range is much better suited for short range shooting. It really depends on what is available to you. If I lived close to Kamloops I would certainly compete in the 1000 yard shooting. There is always a common denominator in rifle shooting, reading the conditions, the wind the mirage. And the thrill that comes with shooting well or the frustrations or laughs when you shoot poorly. Thats the addicting part. The fancy gadgets and gizmos has nothing to do with it. No one will ever, ever , ever look down on you if your equipment is old or new or different. If they do, they usually don't last in the sport.

Before the internet shooting forums I believe I saw more people shooting at matches than I do know, its sad. I find that there is a lot of bullying on these forums and right of the get go people are turned off even before they think of going to check out a match.

In terms of equipment, again you should attend a match and see what people are really using. There's lots of second hand stuff to get started with and you'll be competitive right off the bat.

Mike
 
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Well put Ian, everyone needs to start somewhere and the only way to learn is to go out and try.
With someone willing to pass on what they had passed on to them people learn quickly and have alot of fun doing it.
And it dosn't have to be expensive.

M
 
I was in a similar situation when I first looked at Smallbore Silhouette. Hadn't tried it, but I wasn't sure I wanted to invest to get started.

Fortunately I contacted the local coordinator and he just said to show-up. I as handed some ammunition and a loaner rifle. It was really great fun and shortly there after I was collecting the bits to put together my own rig.

Same story with skeet. I was waiting for the rifle range to open and decided to watch some skeet, they wouldn't let me leave without shooting a round.

I personally think that showing-up and watching is the best way to get started in any sport. Fortunately my local club is awesome for that!

Cheers,
Grant

P.S. I wish I had 1000m to play with, looks like a riot!
 
I'll echo the previous comments by saying my 2 experiences at the KTSA ranges have been just great! I showed up at last years Frosty Farky, never having competed before, and the warm welcome set me at ease right away. I had a ton o' fun, met lots of new folks and didn't actually disgrace myself, either!
Then there was this years introductory clinic, and again, it was a wonderful experience.

Simply put, Ian, Richard, Mark, Paul and all the KTSA folks go out of their way to welcome newbies, show them the ropes, and make their first experience a very positive one. If you're thinking of trying this, don't hesitate. Just sign up for the next meet and be prepared to be treated well and taught how to shoot competitively, while having the time of your life.

Which reminds me, when will the notice for the Farky be going out? I want to sign up right away. (I'm already signed up and paid for the "Running of the V-Bulls...) :D
 
If it wasn't for the likes of Ian, Mark, Tommy and the rest of the gang I would still be shooting my Tikka .223 at the steel gongs by myself.

Damn you Ian for lending me your rifle for my first ever match 2 1/2 yrs ago!!!!!
 
+1 Damn you for running that F-class clinic in April and now I'm stuck with a new toy 6BR :p

On top of being great shooters, Ian and Richard are just real good guys, gave me a lot of advice and made a noob feel welcome (even though I was beat by a 10-year-old girl... :redface:).
 
Cat is bang-on.

Our EE is filled with excellent rifles that on their own - or with a few modest changes - could be full-on competitive rifles. Most importantly however, if you have any rifle and can shoot a 4'X4' square at 300M, you have the basis for coming out and experiencing what it is like to shoot in a match. You are guaranteed to make excellent acquaintances, and like most F-Class guys, I bring an extra gun with me in case someone would like to have a go.

We held a great introductory clinic in the Spring and we intend to make this a regular occurrence, but our club is dedicated to mentoring ALL new shooters. We are more than happy to welcome any shooter that has never even spelled "F-Class" before.

I warn you, it is highly addictive!

Ian


Hey thanks for the write up... I am one that wants to get into some long range shooting and I can understand how someone that shows up with a factory hunting rifle and is going to shoot a match would rather just sit and watch that beautiful AICS 700 shoot :rockOn: But with that being said I have no shame, I am competitive when I am good, but when I suck... I just want to get good!!

I am curious tho, cant a .22lr hit a 4'x4' square at 300m? or was that sapose to read 4"x4"??

I plan on getting a 5r and run with it as a stock gun until i figure out the real art of shooting and then maybe doing some fun stuff to it. Well i will do th trigger, bedding and crown if needed.

Again thanks for the write up and If there is a open day for Volks can you bring other people to watch, and learn the sport?

NwG Dutchie
 
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