I was at a party the other night

Money is just a concept people invented...

There is more to live for then just an idea.

Money can't buy you happiness, but if you use it wisely it can convice other people to give you things you think will make you happy.

If having a huge tv makes you happy, ok. I'd rather be sitting under a tree.
 
Being poor doesn't buy you happiness either, but like my brother says "There are two ways to get rich. Earn more or expect less."

The biggest problem is the more money you make, the more expensive your toys get. It's a vicious spiral. When you have time you want money, when you have money you want more time.
 
I was in the rat race for thirty years, albeit not working for serious cash. (When I started in the Army, my take-home pay was $38 every two weeks...) Then I had a little heart attack and a few other health challenges, and they punted my pink little bottom out of the Army, unfit even to lick postage stamps in times of national emergencies.

I have "enough" of everything except time and good health, but by golly, every day is a blessing. And I DO go hutning or fishing, or whatever, as the spirit moves me. Life is very good indeed! My cup is half-full, not half-empty.

Randy, you KNOW the answer to the question you posed!

Doug
 
If he is a good guy you need to take him hunting. Who couldn't use a rich friend. Think of the guns he might buy that you might have to borrow
 
Priorities are the truth....

I like $$ as much as the next guy, and I used to chase cash alot. MOney is good, it buys happiess in the form of not having to worry about where the next weeks grocery money is coming from. That is more important than people realize..

Any ways, some guys woudl rather make a deal than go hunting or fishing.

Look at a guy like Jim Pattison- He's like 78, a billionaire, and he still goes to work full time. I've met Jim Pattison (although we are not aqquaintances) he is an interesting fellow, but form what I can understand, he and I have completely different priorities.

He seems to be a guy that would rather make some sort of deal where he earned $1 than take a vacation.:)

If I won a million bucks, I'd still work, for a short time, anyway. Just until I could get lal my ducks in a row and get set up to not work ever again.:p
 
Back to gatehouse, it does not take a million bucks to retire, trust me on this. Mind you, I do have a military pension, and it is a pretty sure thing. As long as Canada does not declare bankruptcy, they should still be paying me enough money to live on!

Doug
 
I'm quite young (or at least I tell myself) and I just got my ass out of the industry end of forestry (in ontario, for obvious reasons). I grew up wanting to be those "high-end" industry types. I just threw a bunch of time and money on education and I'm currently with the government (yeah, I know:rolleyes: ) [ don't worry, the pay sux!:redface: ]. I'm very fortunate that when I make a small sacrifice (like working an 80 hour week) that my boss knows I'm taking an extra week off in hunting season, in fact, he insists.

Conversely, my last two bosses (within the industry side) are in diar straights: $200,000 a year (+ more than that in bonus), the first one died at 53 of stomach cancer (and that was a massive loss to the world) and the second one (age 45 or so) has to hinge his bets on experimental colon cancer treatment (cuz that's the last option) [ie. he's dead man walking!] Neither one ever smoked, both had a great family (friends of mine) and expensive toys. My buddies (that I started my career with) have been working toward that $200,000 a year for 10 years now and sacrificed whatever thay had to, in order to work toward "the goal". Welcome to an industry crisis: they are all in fear for their jobs. (example: Tembec's shares from $14.00 when I started , to $1.10 yesterday) There are some things more important! (Like guns and hunting:D )

I'm with Doug, no question
 
Doug said:
Back to gatehouse, it does not take a million bucks to retire, trust me on this. Mind you, I do have a military pension, and it is a pretty sure thing. As long as Canada does not declare bankruptcy, they should still be paying me enough money to live on!

Doug

Doug, it probably will be at least that for me!! I like to live large.:)
 
Who's Richer

Gentlemen your outlook on life is great. I got a lesson early in life about priorities. My mom died in 1969, she was sick for four years and I was 14. We lived on a farm on PEI, and my dad was a potato grower and dairy farmer. I worked all my childhood and I didn't think much of it when I was growing up but there wasn't any such thing as being bored. I had chores to do and we had a big old farm house to live in. A couple came to live with us after my mom died, and the lady was our housekeeper and her husband did odd jobs around the farm when he wasn't working. Ethel was like a second mother and Lester like an uncle to me. They always talked about retirement and living on their house they were fixing up. One night when I was home studying for an exam, Lester came down with a terrible headache, he never had a headache in his life. I drove he and his wife to the community hospital, we were there about ten minutes and he passed away. I was 18 and he was 63 years old. It's not easy telling a sons or daughters that their father just died. I got two tragic wake up's before I turned nineteen. I had listened to Ethel and Lester talk about all the things they were going to do for years and in a few short minutes life ended for Lester. They missed all the things they had planned on doing because they didn't take the time to do them when they could.

My wife used to get really pissed at me for hunting, buying & selling, and trading guns. Working 12 or 14 hour days, driving myself harder and harder to make a better life. I went one stretch where I didn't take a vacation for six years,
then I got sick.

I dropped from 185 lbs to 125 in less than three months and the only thing that saved me was some drastic drugs and rest. I spent most of the time lying around unable to do anything. My wife got a quick outlook on life, she could have been a widow with two small children. Now we do what we can, with what modest income we have. She has her horse and I my guns.
I am disabled with a spinal injury I sustained six years ago, and unable to hunt, walk, or sit. I am glad we did the things we wanted to do when we could, I am now 51.

My point is, do something you want to do, but don't bankrupt yourselves trying to do it. Money isn't everything, finding a new toy and scratching to save the money to pay for it is an accomplishment. I wouldn't mind a million dollars, but I would rather be healthy and pain free.
The one thing I am going to do for my wife is get enough money together and get my back strong enough to take her to the Calgary Stampede. We had planned on going, even had our tickets before I got injured, now it won't happen. I don't give a dam about what I would like, she deserves it for always being there when I needed her. Never complains, and is always there with a hug for me, when I am in pain.

Have fun and do what you want to do now.
 
Sound words Al. I'm of the mind that you should always do what you can. My friends all thought I was nuts when they went off to Uni after high school and I wandered the globe for 3 years. I just never want to say "I wish I had..."
 
Hats off to you albayo. I agree about the education in some respects. I truly "wish I had" some days. On the other hand, I'm pretty happy to be where Iam right now. ...Takes all kinds, I guess.
 
Have fun and do what you want to do now

My wife and I had the opportunity to go to New Zealand after we got out of college in the 70's, my new wife would only move to Moncton from PEI. A few years ago she said we should have gone to New Zealand. That's still burns me, we both had jobs and all we had to do was pay half our way there. Couldn't pry a young woman away from a great mom, now if her family was a bunch of no good folks it would be different. But opportuities are sometimes lost, so do things when you are young.
 
Makes you think, eh, Albayo? One thing we can't do is beat ourselves up over the woulda-coulda-shoulda's, though. ;)
My friend, I hope one day maybe with the help of some friends, family and gunnutz you can also get out for a hunt again.

As for Randy's original question - I was just talking to my buddy at work today about "really living". I remembered being about 12 years old, living in the country just south of Ottawa (Osgoode Township). In the spring we would hike to the back of our property where we had 8 or 10 sugar maples. We'd tap the trees and when the buckets were getting nice and full we'd build a fire, hang our huge kettle over the fire and spend all day boiling down the sweet sap. I'd plink with my Crosman .22, we'd roast hot dogs over the fire and play with our two golden retrievers (Cabus & Phoenix).
That was living. That was riches beyond what Donald Trump could offer me. ;)
 
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