I was bitten by the German 45 bug

Wendell said:
Curious why German over the 2.0 M&P45?
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I had an M&P9 2.0 and while it's a great bang for buck, I was not particularly enamored with it.

It's entirely a mental block, but I feel that getting an M&P45 would not feel like a new gun to me.

Same reason why the Glock 21 or CZ97 are not on my list. I own a Glock 17 and a CZ75 and they resembles their siblings too much to my liking.
 
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I'm also in the USP camp—it's very close to being my favourite polymer pistol. I've owned 9mm, .45 (both the regular and Expert models) and currently have a .40. I've tried to like the HK45—I've owned three (including a LEM version) but sold them all. I find the grip too slippery for my liking and the groove in the trigger guard "bit" the inside of my trigger finger under recoil. I didn't care for the LEM trigger...I would preferred a light DA-only trigger to be honest. I prefer the DA and SA trigger pulls of the USP over the HK45 as well. I am in the minority here as most shooters do prefer the HK45 but I'm a USP guy for life. Have you thought about a Belgian variant? I do love my FNX45 Tactical.
 
Master-G said:
I'm also in the USP camp—it's very close to being my favourite polymer pistol. I've owned 9mm, .45 (both the regular and Expert models) and currently have a .40. I've tried to like the HK45—I've owned three (including a LEM version) but sold them all. I find the grip too slippery for my liking and the groove in the trigger guard "bit" the inside of my trigger finger under recoil. I didn't care for the LEM trigger...I would preferred a light DA-only trigger to be honest. I prefer the DA and SA trigger pulls of the USP over the HK45 as well. I am in the minority here as most shooters do prefer the HK45 but I'm a USP guy for life. Have you thought about a Belgian variant? I do love my FNX45 Tactical.
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Have you tried the match lem hybrid on the usp? I really recommend a try.
 
I too was bitten by the German .45 bug. So I picked up a PPQ in .45 in a very good deal off the EE. I haven't been out to the range with it yet because of hunting season; but, now that it is pretty much done, I will be getting out soon. Thus far, just from playing with it, I have to say that the trigger seems to be all that they are cracked up to be, and the grip fits my hand well; no easy feat since I broke a finger way back in high school that did not heal properly, can only partially bend and so it has a major impact on my shooting grip.

I had a Browning BDA (P220) in .45 some years ago, but found it did not fit my hand well at all; and in addition, I realized I really did not like the heel magazine release.
 
Chuckbuster said:
I too was bitten by the German .45 bug. So I picked up a PPQ in .45 in a very good deal off the EE. I haven't been out to the range with it yet because of hunting season; but, now that it is pretty much done, I will be getting out soon. Thus far, just from playing with it, I have to say that the trigger seems to be all that they are cracked up to be, and the grip fits my hand well; no easy feat since I broke a finger way back in high school that did not heal properly, can only partially bend and so it has a major impact on my shooting grip.

I had a Browning BDA (P220) in .45 some years ago, but found it did not fit my hand well at all; and in addition, I realized I really did not like the heel magazine release.
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PPQ 45 is very under rated... trigger is amazing for a service pistol and the grip is even more comfortable than the HK45, if that's even possible.
 
Beauvais98 said:
I hadn't looked at the FN FNX 45 but it's worth looking into. I'm not a fan of the threaded barrel but that still leaves the FNX 45 (non-Tactical).

Thanks for your write-up on the FN!
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The main reason I picked up the Tactical was for optic compatibility. Other than that it only adds the threaded barrel and suppressor-height sights compared with the regular model.
 
Beauvais98 said:
I tried revolvers, and while I am more accurate with them than with pistols, I still prefer pistols.



Mainly because of the 10-round capacity of the P227 vs the 8-round P220.



I am intrigued by the HK45's LEM trigger. I hear it's a very light DA (except on first shot). There is actually one for sale on EE right now.
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Do you know why your more accurate with a revolver ? because more than likely your shooting it single action and taking your time before you pull the trigger. and it may very well have a lighter trigger pull than the semiautos your shooting . some people who shoot semi's can't wait to shoot the next shot that they know is next in line . and it happens to all of us . a few months ago some guy at my range handed me a old Colt match grade 45acp . he said he was tired of shooting through the same hole . he gave me one shot . 200gr semi wad cutter home load.

I took my time and for a so called Match pistol the trigger was horrible . at 20 yards or so I put that bullet through the same hole in the bullseye he had shot . the look on his and his girlfriends face was priceless . take your time and you will get just as accurate with the semi than as you are with the revolver. ps I've tried the Sigs in 45acp before but never the HK's or the Wather's . I still prefer the 1911 platform . to each their own .
 
I fully agree that we tend to take our time more with revolvers, but then again, I also take my time with pistols.

I would be tempted to say that the main factor for greater accuracy in my case was the distance between the front and rear sights on the revolvers.

The revolvers I shot had 6 inch barrels (Alfa 9mm and Alfa .22LR). The distance between the sights are roughly the equivalent of what they would be on a 7.5 inch barrel pistol.

In my opinion, that plays a significant role in the accuracy I was able to achieve with revolvers.
 
I have a 227. As others have indicated, its a little large around the grip because of that double stack. Still, more to hold on to and while it is my only .45, it is one of my favourites to shoot. I shoot better groups with it than some of my 9s.
 
ozguy said:
I have a 227. As others have indicated, its a little large around the grip because of that double stack. Still, more to hold on to and while it is my only .45, it is one of my favourites to shoot. I shoot better groups with it than some of my 9s.
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It is often the case with quality 45 ACP.
The 45 ACP is inhenrently more accurate than a 9.
Big fat slug, subsonic, it's like the bumblebee with is big body and it's very small wings, it's not suppose to fly…

But it does.:)

PS: I luv the way my P227 fit in my hand, i should shoot it well.
 
mebiuspower said:
It's not a target pistol like the USP Expert is. It's also not priced like a USP Expert.
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It’s priced significantly higher than the non-tactical model for what I’d consider not that much more in terms of substantial improvements (at least in Canada where suppressor compatibility is moot) other than optic compatibility.

EDIT: I just checked the FN website and it looks to me like the slide stop and mag release are the same for both—here are screen grabs from their website:

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Thanks everyone for your input!

I really appreciate this forum and how it allows enthusiasts to bounce ideas with other equally enthusiastic gun nutz!

I have made my choice and I ended-up buying the Walther PPQ M2 45. I'm looking forward to try it out and I will make sure to report back my first hand opinion.
 
Beauvais98 said:
I have made my choice and I ended-up buying the Walther PPQ M2 45. I'm looking forward to try it out and I will make sure to report back my first hand opinion.
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Nice! I've not tried a PPQ but I really like my .40 P99. Looking forward to hearing how it shoots!
 
Congrat. Should be a great one. Let us know how you like it. I'm a big Walther fan. Like Master G, I have a P99 in 40 and think it is fantastic. PPQ are the benchmark for constant action triggers.
 
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