I wonder if Ranch Hand paves the way to something more?

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Like TC Contenders? (even longer barrels, single shots and needs two hands to reload, etc?)

h t t p://www.tcarms.com/firearms/g2Contender.php

Forgive me wishful thinking... ;)
 
Not sure what you mean. Buy a T/C Contender rifle. (NR) Put a barrel on it in your chosen caliber, that keeps it over 26". If you are hoping for the pistol to be NR, I don't see that ever happening.
 
the law says nothing about reloading with two hands. IIRC, the wording is along the lines of ''aimed and fired with one hand''.

the mares leg gets by because of that stub of a stock. there was a single shot shotgun with PGO about the same OAL lenght, that was non-restricted and reclassified a few years ago.
 
Novel idea ...transformers...lol

I feel like everything would get loose after a while and the stock wouldnt be as firm reducing accuracy.

Anyone has one of these beauties. Does it shoot nice after a 1k of rounds?
 
jwillmoore said:
Novel idea ...transformers...lol

I feel like everything would get loose after a while and the stock wouldnt be as firm reducing accuracy.

Anyone has one of these beauties. Does it shoot nice after a 1k of rounds?
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I've got 2 frames (the original contender pistols) and several barrels. 30-30, 35 rem, 7tcu, 6.5tcu, 22lr......I used to have a 45lc/.410 barrel but sold it. They are solidly built, no worries of them shooting themselves to peices.
 
gallen270 said:
the law says nothing about reloading with two hands. IIRC, the wording is along the lines of ''aimed and fired with one hand''.

the mares leg gets by because of that stub of a stock. there was a single shot shotgun with PGO about the same OAL lenght, that was non-restricted and reclassified a few years ago.
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I don't think stub stock OR OAL maters - as long as it's factory configuration and it's MANUALLY operated.
 
There stub stock and "fired with one hand" are what that differentiate the mechanical action of a Mares Leg from a single action revolver. Both manually operated, both hold 5 rounds, both have sub-26 OAL, both are made of metal, and both are handguns in the USA. I think it is that the hrevolver can be thumb cocked and then trigger pulled with one hand. the Lever action requires 2 hands to #### and two/one to fire.

Can a COntender be fiored with one hand "easily"? Depends on the physical build of the RCMP tech that tests it I guess...;)
 
"Lever action requires 2 hands to #### and two/one to fire."

Exactly my point. So does contender. An if it has common parts with that is long guns. I think there is a good opportunity.
 
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Yet it says "handgun" right on the box. :D
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Our laws are not the same as American ones...its silly if you think it is a handgun. Their laws have to do with overall lengths...so do ours...we are just allowed shorter factory barrels (as long as it keeps the overall length in check) without a tax stamp. You can make a 10/22 pretty short...and keep it legally non restricted too...but when it has to be 26.5" in length overall...its not really a HANDGUN at all, is it?

For the record I can fire my buddies Benelli M4 one handed...AND ITS A SEMI AUTO...is it a handgun then too?!?!?
 
jeffcarr88 said:
Our laws are not the same as American ones...its silly if you think it is a handgun. Their laws have to do with overall lengths...so do ours...we are just allowed shorter factory barrels (as long as it keeps the overall length in check) without a tax stamp. You can make a 10/22 pretty short...and keep it legally non restricted too...but when it has to be 26.5" in length overall...its not really a HANDGUN at all, is it?

For the record I can fire my buddies Benelli M4 one handed...AND ITS A SEMI AUTO...is it a handgun then too?!?!?
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I said "it says on the box". Not "I think". See the difference? AND all OAL stuff applies to FACTORY CONFIGURATION ONLY.

So:
Both ranch hands and contenders are NOT semis and requires both hands to operate the mechanics. Contenders are also a single shots. Both come from factory the way they are. :)
 
They say "handgun" on the box because they are made for the United States. If it didn't say handgun, it would be classed as a short-barreled-rifle (SBR) and have to have a tax-stamp etc. from the B.A.T.F.E. and would cost another $200.00 to be registered this way. Up here, luckily, they disregarded that statement when the did the FRT, otherwise it would be restricted here as well. The stock, I believe, is the deciding factor. The stock on the "Ranch Hand" (even though it is a short stub of a thing) indicates that it is a shoulder fired weapon. If you buy a contender rifle, with a stock on it, you can have whatever length barrel you want as long as it's over 26". If you remove the stock and put a pistol grip on it, you have now changed it to a one-handed firearm - or pistol. This would make it restricted at the very least, or perhaps even prohib. (As it would be an unregistered restricted firearm)
 
you are wrong...you can put a pistol grip on the gun...AS LONG AS YOU MEET THE OVERALL LENGTH requirements. If not...it becomes a RESTRICTED gun, NOT A HANDGUN due to its overall size...you need to get it reclassified and have 30 days to do so.
 
jeffcarr88 said:
you can put a pistol grip on the gun...AS LONG AS YOU MEET THE OVERALL LENGTH requirements. If not...it becomes a RESTRICTED gun, NOT A HANDGUN due to its overall size...you need to get it reclassified and have 30 days to do so.
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Correct. But what I'm taking about is factory configurations, not later mods.
 
A handgun is a handgun...will be only sold to someone with correct license for one and can only (legally) be used at an approved gun range once you've gotten an ATT and taken any classes that range may require. There is no "loop hole", no special rifle/shotgun you can buy that is NR and is also a handgun.

You have rifles and shotguns...some are shorter then others. And then you have your restricted handguns and small-ER rifles and shotguns.

...what is the point of this thread again?
 
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