Idea for getting around 5 round mag restriction...

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Maybe I'm missing something, but would it not be possible to create an adapter which allows certain MBRs to utilize AICS 308 magazines?

These magazines are readily available in both 5 and 10 round sizes, and nothing is stopping anyone from selling a 20 rounder.

Yes, I know that they're single stack, but there are semi-autos that feed from single-stack mags, so that shouldn't be a deal breaker. And with some companies building AICS mags which go double stack to single stack, they needn't be too long.

Heck, for that matter, is AI also making double stack mags for some of their newer bolt-actions?

Just a thought.
 
I'd love to see a canadian manufacturer make a new manufacture No1MK3 receiver with integral scope rail, in 308 and 338 maybe 7mm o8 , that takes an M14 style mag in 5 10 and ....
Seems like a simple enough bolt, head and receiver to reproduce for fairly cheap. I know, I'm daydreaming again :D
 
M14Doctor said:
I'd love to see a canadian manufacturer make a new manufacture No1MK3 receiver with integral scope rail, in 308 and 338 maybe 7mm o8 , that takes an M14 style mag in 5 10 and ....
Seems like a simple enough bolt, head and receiver to reproduce for fairly cheap. I know, I'm daydreaming again :D
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You mean that uses it's own style magazine that just happens to function in an M14 style semi right :D
 
kilo69 said:
You mean that uses it's own style magazine that just happens to function in an M14 style semi right :D
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The fellas who make the TAC21 frame could have made their own 10rnd M14 "like" mags. Instead they decided to make something completely different and charge 3 times the price for each mag. Dumb move in my opinion. Would be nice to have one mag fit three different rifles (the AIA Enfields already uses 10rnd M14 mags).
 
JRW (QOR) said:
The fellas who make the TAC21 frame could have made their own 10rnd M14 "like" mags. Instead they decided to make something completely different and charge 3 times the price for each mag. Dumb move in my opinion. Would be nice to have one mag fit three different rifles (the AIA Enfields already uses 10rnd M14 mags).
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The AIA Enfields use their own magazines, not M14 Mags. The mags may be M14 'like' but they are not M14 mags. Good thing too. The AIA Enfield magazines happen to just conveniently work in the M14. No I don't have any and if I could I'd buy a half dozen.

If the AIA Enfields were designed to use the M14 mags, the rifles could only be used with mags pinned to 5 rounds here in Canada. The glitch in Canadian law (i.e. it is important what the magazine is designed for and not what it works in) is that the AIA Mags were designed specifically for the Enfield.
 
An M14 style mag, meaning the general appearance, but made for the new bolt action. This could easily be achieved in this country.
 
Yeah well, I have an idea too but some pussies on here would get their pink silk boxers in a bunch.

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I'm not talking about AIA style mags, I'm talking about Accuracy International's AICS and AW platform mags.

The AICS style mag is the standard single-stack DBM within the precision tactical community and is gaining a large following with manufacturers other than AI. Ruger has used it in the M77 Gunsite Scout, MDT has used it in the TAC21, and so on. Aftermarket DBM kits exist for Remington, Savage, Winchester, and other bolt actions.

These mags already exist in capacities of 10 rounds and up, and are widely available, though generally not as dirt cheap as, say, an AR or M14 mag.

The whole AIA mag seems to be a bust, with nothing coming from all the RIFFLE mag drama, et cetera.

I'm just wondering what would be involved in adapting an M14 or other MBR to use the already widely available AICS mags. Could an adapter be made? Could a receiver be machined to take these mags?
 
Send me one, I am willing to try and make the mods required and could tell ya pretty quick if it would be workable. The mag would be returned unharmed when the project was either finished or dead on the shop floor hehehe :D
 
does a person have to manufacture a complete bolt rifle with the 10 - 20 round magazine ?

what if a person made a aftermarket type stock for a savage / stevens rifle that used a special 10 - 20 round magazine that with some fitting and grinding may be accidently used in another rifle , maybe even a m14 clone :D
 
Fusilier said:
The AIA Enfields use their own magazines, not M14 Mags. The mags may be M14 'like' but they are not M14 mags. Good thing too. The AIA Enfield magazines happen to just conveniently work in the M14. No I don't have any and if I could I'd buy a half dozen.

If the AIA Enfields were designed to use the M14 mags, the rifles could only be used with mags pinned to 5 rounds here in Canada. The glitch in Canadian law (i.e. it is important what the magazine is designed for and not what it works in) is that the AIA Mags were designed specifically for the Enfield.
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The mags are identical except for the square hole at the front is missing on the AIA. The only other difference is M14 mags won't latch in the AIA unless you drumel about a millimeter off the bottom of the lug on the mag. I've done that with my 5 rndr M14 mags as they are a real pain in an M14, but on the AIA they stick out the bottom and fall right out when released. They are good for putting in sighting rounds (usually 2) before firing counting shots (10).

Reading the original documentation on the AIA they deliberately decided to use M14 style mags.

Now that AIA seems to be kaput there wont be any more new 10 rndrs:mad:
 
Fenix.NZ said:
yeah because Aussies dont know how to do business
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Which makes our AIA's collecters rifles now. I'm seriously considering not firing it as much any more because of this.

It really is too bad because the rifle is superb. It shoots true, well build, and the stock (teak) looks great. Looks wicked with a nice scope on it. Would qualify as one of those scary menacing looking sniper rifles:D
 
burnt_servo said:
does a person have to manufacture a complete bolt rifle with the 10 - 20 round magazine ?

what if a person made a aftermarket type stock for a savage / stevens rifle that used a special 10 - 20 round magazine that with some fitting and grinding may be accidently used in another rifle , maybe even a m14 clone :D
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But there is the problem. If you are fitting/grinding the mag, you are altering it specifically to fit the M14 and you've broken the law.

Now if you had a rifle, like the AIA Enfield, that has a Mag that works in it AND works in the M14 but the reverse isn't true (i.e. the M14 mag doesn't work in the Enfield), you'd be golden. That's how we have the 10 round LAR pistol mags in our ARs. The pistol mag works in a standard AR but an AR mag won't work in the pistol.

All because of a stupid law.
 
Recreate the no1MK3, I'm tellin ya, it could be done from billet in canada easy peasy. Make it in 243 , .308 and .338federal. Make it super affordable, with a built in scope mount... And have it take mags identical to the AIA.
If the aussies can recreate the no4 ... Surely some enterprising canadian company with 5 axis cnc could get er done.
 
The problem still exists as to where and how to source the mags themselves.
I could easily develop a stock system that accepted an alternate mag... But what mag?
Would have to be an existing bolt action mag and I'm thinkin single stack may not work without modification to the M14 bolt
 
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