actually, it's YOU that spooks elk more often than not- they just quietly vanish over the next ridge , and you often wonder where they went, if you SEE them at all- well, GET A HORSE-or a string of them-then you can stalk close enough for your 308/30/30/whatever- they're not shy around horses , and often come into the lines at night to share hay, etc- and on horseback, it's like being on a small tree stand- if you're on foot, the 338 /250 wins the day, and your shot won't come at any less than 300 yards- and i do east slopes of the rockies, where we have plenty