identify please leupold vari x

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hey guys it appears this is a vari - x ii 2-7x model.............. it has a L prefix serial. 1980.
but im wondering what the "values" are in the slide friction, can anyone tell me please...
tried the leupold method, counting has from 0 to 1st number, divide by how many hashes, doesnt make sense to me but maybe does to you.

or perhaps the 0 is throwing my method off an 1 should be used, in that case i believe its a 1/2 moa ?

the irony was i remember only needing to go "half" as much as what was ment to be needed... Example. if say i needed 4 inches, you would only turn the slide '2' an it would go the whole 4 inch...... so sounds like its gota be 1/2moa?

thank
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forever an a day i believe it to be a x33, but measuring shows its a 28mm - old dog- its been on many of my guns an sits on my 3006 currently :)
 
Potashminer said:
An email just sent - the Vari X II was 1/2 MOA (per unit) friction adjustments - not "clicks".
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yeh bro definatley friction/slide old skool.

no worries il jump in there an check it out -- hope ya well Nels.


its my lightest scope by far, thats why its on the short 3006er :)

so theoretically Nels, from #1 to #2 , is ment to be a roughly 1 inch at 100...............

im aware they are not true to value , sometimes stick, need a tap, chase ghosts without doing so waste alot of ammo, mines rock solid once set. have been caught out chasing #### without realising that the turrets may stick, an release next shot, or appear to of not moved, then all of a sudden the thing moves where it shoulda...

my drama is, i thought my 180gr BTSP load shot "zero" , an the 150 PPSN load shot +2 same poa-- but not to be , about 3 inch at 100 to the Left-

im sighting the 150s in tomorow an trying to wrap my head around what i actually got... cos well, i didnt even know it was 28mm lol
 
As mentioned in my email, I no longer have one on hand to verify - but I suspect that from "1" to "2" might be 1/2" at 100 yards - not 1". And, you should not be surprised that a different weight bullet gives you BOTH an elevation AND a windage change - is actually sort of unusual for a rifle to throw various weight bullets to the same place.

My Dad had a "farmer" worked over m1917 rifle - "sporterized" by him in 1948 - when it came to me, was with a mix of various 150, 165, 180 and 220 grain bullets - multiple brands - I fired them all off at a 100 yard target - the 150's were distinctly higher and to the right - the rest of them fell into a grouping that I could cover with palm of my hand - was then obvious to me why he was not too fussy about bullet weight when he went hunting - 165, 180 and 220 grain - various brands - all went about the same place at 100 yards.

You might have some age to you - I thought it was mostly us old farts from the cheapy Weaver and Bushnell days - tapping on scope turrets with fired cartridge case when trying to sight in a scope - to get the guts to actually "move". Tended to be "rock solid" once you got the barrel and scope pointed in same direction, but seemed to be a fuss, in those days - hence was our practice to use "kentucky windage / elevation" and would hold off for wind or range, rather than twirling on a scope turret.

EDIT: A late thought - on some "stubborn" older scopes - might work to do final adjustment turning the turret screw "in" - so if you want to go "out" 2 units, then turn 10 units - then back "in" 8 units - tends to use the turret screw threads to move the guts, not so much relying on the bias spring to "push" the inner tube into position. I do not think the old ones were polished nearly so well as modern ones.
 
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Potashminer said:
As mentioned in my email, I no longer have one on hand to verify - but I suspect that from "1" to "2" might be 1/2" at 100 yards - not 1". And, you should not be surprised that a different weight bullet gives you BOTH an elevation AND a windage change - is actually sort of unusual for a rifle to throw various weight bullets to the same place.

My Dad had a "farmer" worked over m1917 rifle - "sporterized" by him in 1948 - when it came to me, was with a mix of various 150, 165, 180 and 220 grain bullets - multiple brands - I fired them all off at a 100 yard target - the 150's were distinctly higher and to the right - the rest of them fell into a grouping that I could cover with palm of my hand - was then obvious to me why he was not too fussy about bullet weight when he went hunting - 165, 180 and 220 grain - various brands - all went about the same place at 100 yards.

You might have some age to you - I thought it was mostly us old farts from the cheapy Weaver and Bushnell days - tapping on scope turrets with fired cartridge case when trying to sight in a scope - to get the guts to actually "move". Tended to be "rock solid" once you got the barrel and scope pointed in same direction, but seemed to be a fuss, in those days - hence was our practice to use "kentucky windage / elevation" and would hold off for wind or range, rather than twirling on a scope turret.

EDIT: A late thought - on some "stubborn" older scopes - might work to do final adjustment turning the turret screw "in" - so if you want to go "out" 2 units, then turn 10 units - then back "in" 8 units - tends to use the turret screw threads to move the guts, not so much relying on the bias spring to "push" the inner tube into position. I do not think the old ones were polished nearly so well as modern ones.
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all of the Above mate, youre spot on with the back a few then forward a few to where ya want it.... i find that breaks my slide seal now i am thinking back-- an then i go me small adjustment where needed, an so on.

yeah im with you blokes on the old tappity tap, kentucky windage, hard to find rifle chamberings, peep sight varietys and fit in with the mullet an beard combo of recent times..... eh!

yeah thats the interesting part with the #1 to #2 , i swear a little bit Goes HEAPS.... i cant remember now its been a good while but i seem to think ya only go half what ya think ya need to go? an maybe thats cos i had been reading it wrong- so tomorow will be a good to know moment as il be sure to take note of A- how much i slide it and B- how much it moves it... an if its consistant. :)

only 3 inch or 8cm out hitting Left. neatly 1.5 high which i liiiike
 
I have several of the old 2-7X28 Leupolds. They are all one moa change for each number, half inch per graduation.

All of the idiosyncrasies mentioned above are also part of my experience, including very light weight and never budging once sighted in.

Ted
 
here we goooo.

'sighted with the 150s after 3 shots today, heres how it went though...

i started 3 inches LEFT poi. i moved it 3 mark total. 1 i 2 i 3 or 3 total graduations...... i shoot.
im approx no more 1 inch out to the Right---- very slight turn of dial - say half graduation from memory-- i shoot
im now Vertically Happy- shot moved as photo indicates.

im now Real High, possibly the new charges are warmer than the initial one to determine We were NOT Zerod (an come up with LEft 3inch)

5 inches high or so. I move the U/D slide one complete number. or two graduations. eg- 2 - 3 . i shoot.
it moves directly 2 inch Down. im not 3 inches above POA.

since then, i have moved it 1/2 a graduation. so eg 3 to 3.5. i havnt shot :D


haha-

this by my math should end me up like 1.5-2 high above POA at 100 Meters.... an really, even if its only 1 or stays at 3.... we're cool LOL. jokes aside. ill confirm another day now im 'zerod' an then litereally GO HUNT.


but by above, none of any method stands above the other.

my error too off the bonnet / backpack / shirt under butt has a fair tolerances which must be remembered... plus the load isnt bench rest dialled. SO example between 2 and 3 shot, was it Me/Load. and whilst i had a good Vertical i moved it a complete unit to just see what it would do an thats where i got 2 inch movement....again, is there an inch of me/load involved here too.....

YEs i know you old fullas saying SHOOT A FRIGGEN GROUP ya clown..... i know i know..but lets not go there---- this is my 'node' from my developing after barrel chop etc, so its good as we got an im pretty sure its a 1.5-1.75 inch load most of the day at 100.

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Why not? said:
I have several of the old 2-7X28 Leupolds. They are all one moa change for each number, half inch per graduation.

All of the idiosyncrasies mentioned above are also part of my experience, including very light weight and never budging once sighted in.

Ted
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Ted i swear mine is doing Double the above metioned!
 
up an down in relation to original post. at days end
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an my windage i forgot to take great note but it was about the 4.5 - 5.5.. i went l then r .


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The best part is the vernier can be slid around to give a truer positioning for your, as left settings.

Example:
You left your final settings so that the rifle is hitting 2” high at 100 yards( yes yards it’s an ‘Merican scope) so you use a screwdriver tip and slide the graduation vernier around till the hash mark on the turret aligns with the “2” on the vernier.

After your windage is set for zero left and right, slide the vernier around so the turret hash mark aligns with the “0” on the vernier.
 
Lefty #### said:
The best part is the vernier can be slid around to give a truer positioning for your, as left settings.

Example:
You left your final settings so that the rifle is hitting 2” high at 100 yards( yes yards it’s an ‘Merican scope) so you use a screwdriver tip and slide the graduation vernier around till the hash mark on the turret aligns with the “2” on the vernier.

After your windage is set for zero left and right, slide the vernier around so the turret hash mark aligns with the “0” on the vernier.
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True. i didnt think it moved but i will re asses that!

would make it easier when switching back, ive loaded all my 150grainers for now, i got 20 an im expecting to send no more than 4 at 1 or 2 deer this month......
i did send a few at the Gongs this afternoon........... 320m first up.... they are in trouble with a duplex hold over.... u bet.
270m next an hit it that hard im sure it blew a hole...

wouldnt like to be a large antlered sambar deer, or wild dog this month thats for sure boys!!

thanks for the tip, ill check the dial out an se if i can set it!
 
WhelanLad said:
True. i didnt think it moved but i will re asses that!

would make it easier when switching back, ive loaded all my 150grainers for now, i got 20 an im expecting to send no more than 4 at 1 or 2 deer this month......
i did send a few at the Gongs this afternoon........... 320m first up.... they are in trouble with a duplex hold over.... u bet.
270m next an hit it that hard im sure it blew a hole...

wouldnt like to be a large antlered sambar deer, or wild dog this month thats for sure boys!!

thanks for the tip, ill check the dial out an se if i can set it!
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http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/FIREARMS/leupold_vari-x_series.pdf

Pages 22, and 23 of this pdf!
 
for guns of that era, the common ones, i feel the duplex on these 2-7s are perfectly suited for using the section from Fine to thick crosshair, the point, as a perfect 300m or so aim point.

works for me on a few rifles now but they are all coincidently in a similiar type an style, an the 100m poi varies
 
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