IDF to replace the Tavor with M4

greentips said:
Are you carrying it like a hunting rifle and slinging it on one shoulder? These things are not designed to be carried like that.

I actually like bullpup. Bullpup works well in prone and kneeling. X95 with grip pod/bipod is the cat ass in section attack type movement. It is much easier to get up from the ground with a X95 than the 1m stick. Easy to run with it without pointing the stick up, and it does not slam down hard on the way to prone like the 1m stick ( physics here, how slegde hammer works ). Saying that, X95 is nowhere near to be the "ideal" bullpup though, I have my complaints about it, but not about it being a bullpup.

The Desert Arms MDR is closer to what I would like in a bullpup ergonomic ( forget about its forward ejecting mech for now ). The issue is that the current LAD in the market pretty much needs 10" to 11" rail space to accommodate all the the BUIS, sling swivel, LAD and switches comfortably. Ideally do not want the switches all over the place so it becomes easy to "miss" the switches at night. X95's 3.5" high bore to top rail height is also becoming something to remember at short range because LAD and the bore diverge both vertically and horizontally.
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Whenever I've run a rear-weight biased Bullpup (Tavor, SA80, etc) without a sling, I found that any type of carry position (Sul, Patrol, etc) other than in the shoulder, was more taxing on my wrist and forearms due to that rear wanting to rotate.

During section attacks, I've never had a problem with the 1m stick during fire and movement. Often enough the buttstock gets stuck into under the armpit and steadied anyways.

Quite honestly, I don't have a problem with Bullpups themselves, just with the weight balance of the Tavor and SA80 (as well as how bulky the Tavor Polymer molds feel to me). Funnily enough, even though it has many faults, I find that the weight balance on the T97 to be just about perfectly balanced on the Pistol grip.
 
yingtsay said:
No, money always comes out on top. It's about money.
Israeli did not fully adopt Galil due to US money
Israeli won't maintain Tavor/X95 due to US money
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I think you hit on the head.

Israel acquired it's superb German conventional submarine fleet at a severely discounted price the German government tried to keep secret from German taxpayers. Including the after market modification to launch cruise missiles.

Also Israeli government signed access treaty with its port facility at Eilat in exchange for maritime PLA security resources deployed to protect thier submarine base.
This last one pissed off the Pentagon.

It's rumoured Senator McCain was influenced by Israeli government to cut off survivor pension payments USS Liberty attack victims.
 
khmerog said:
100!! It's like getting welfare to create and sell a luxurious tool and continue to get welfare. Israeli Lobby in Western country is very powerful. And I'm not anti-Semitic.. I just rather see Canada spend our money to R&D and build up our own Industries.
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I don’t think you’re fully versed on how US military aid to Israel works.
 
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