idpa-ipsc crossover gun?

If you insist on shooting IPSC Standard Division, then there are few options. IMHO the STI Eagle in .40 would be the best choice. As Bob stated, you can download to a lower PF for ESP.

If you are open to shooting IPSC Production, then significantly more options become available: (listed in no particular order)
1) Glock 17
2) S&W M&P
3) STI GP6/GP6-C
4) CZ-75/SP 01 variants (with weight saving measures required for the Shadow)
5) Tanfoglio Stock 3
6) Sig 226
7) Beretta 92
8) H&K USP

The first 5 pistols on the list are the most popular for IPSC/IDPA. (note: I didn't say "best")

I like the GP6C: great out-of-the-box performance and the support from Freedom Ventures is second-to-none. If anything has gone wrong with my GP6C, Sean is sending me replacement parts within days.

If a DA/SA transition is something you want to avoid, get a G17 or M&P9.

The most important thing to remember about these sports: it's the archer, not the arrow... Get a decent, reliable gun and practice, practice, dry fire, and practice more. Gear won't win you matches. Resist the urge to buy a new pistol - stick with what you have for a full year.
 
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Heres a thought . Single Stack 1911 in .40. Its good for IDPA, you can run it in standard and not be down any rounds to the double stacks. If Classic gets approved it will work there, also good for USPSA Limited 10 and Single Stack divisions.
If you go 9mm then you will be down to minor in Standard and limited-10 but you will get a capcity advantage in classic and single stack since they allow 10 rounds in minor but only 8 in major
 
dilligaf850 said:
i am really starting to get a headache from all of this...
i guess i will just buy something and land where i land....lol
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Here would be four guns you might want to look at in no particular order:

1. Glock 17 or 34
2. M&P or M&P Pro
3. CZ 75B/85C
4. STI GP 6

All in 9MM. All will do well in IDPA SSP Division and IPSC Production. All fall within about the same price range. Holsters and mag holders are available at reasonable prices from several manufacturers.

It will be years before you out shoot the ability each gun brings to the table. Find one you like and fly at it. All are reasonably priced and sell well in the used section if you find you don't like either the sports or the gun.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
The 40cal in IDPA is a bit of a red headed child. While guns chambered for same can play in both SSP & ESP divisions depending on type of gun you will be up against 9MM guns in both divisions. If you reload and load down to 125 PF with your .40cal then you do benefit from slightly larger holes for IDPA in SSP & ESP. For IPSC you could shoot the lower powered loads in Production with the same benefit or load for major and shoot STandard division.

For the new shooter it seems to me a DA/SA, DAO or striker fired pistol chambered in 9MM would be the best option. Ammo is less expensive if you don't reload and quality guns can be had in this caliber for under $800 that will be competitive.

Take Care

Bob
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Those 180 gr. .40 sure do take the poppers and plates down nicely, even if loaded to a lower PF!
 
dilligaf850 said:
it comes back to 9 or 40 in either da or sa
what about 38 super where would that fall in the power factor.
considering that because i am shooting that in open and would save alot for reload equipment
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I'm guessing that your reloads for Open are up to Major. Also as such do you load with any special recipe to favour maxing out the effect of the compensator? If so you may find that the same ammo in an IDPA gun produces more kick than you need since they are not permited to use compensators or compensated barrels. Or would you be happy enough loading two separate batches of .38Super so you're running appropriate ammo for each event? What about chasing down the "oh so valuable and rare" .38Super casings? Do you mind or would it be nice to just shoot .40 and let the brass lay or just pickup what is handy for a change? I know that the only "brasshounds" more fastiduous than .45acp shooters are .38Super users :D
 
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