Idpa pcc?
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It will be and if you volunteer to MD some matches at your club you can have an impact on the suitability of the stages for both handgun and PCC. I am looking forward to the spring and hauling out my CX4 Storm. In the past some of us have used our carbines after our regular IDPA match to play with our carbines. It can be a lot of fun. PCC and the new OPtic Specialty Division will add something to the sport for us up here. CCP and BUG are not able to be played by most due to our laws.
Take Care
Bob
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Bob
Lol, at our regular practice nights, we usually have at least one person bringing in their carbine to rip through the stages. It is a blast, and pistol carbines are not that expensive, and a lot just use pistol (Glock) magazines.
Matt from what I see in the US the AR platform is used in 9MM but most are carbines like the CX4 Storm, Glock based carbines using the frame of the Glock, Hi-Poinr is another. Pretty inexpensive to get into and loads of fun. The few times we have shot them after our IDPA club matches were over the guys had a good time. We used them in two gun scenarios but most of the stages used in IDPA can also be shot with a pistol carbine. Distances need not be that great. 50 yards would be the outside if you want the action to be fast and to keep the down time at a minimum. Nobody wants to spend their time just standing around waiting to shoot.
This is one part of the sport where you need not spend a lot on equipment. You can but I don't think it is at all necessary.
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Bob
This is one part of the sport where you need not spend a lot on equipment. You can but I don't think it is at all necessary.
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Bob
Exactly. Get a Vortex Sparc red dot and you are Arnold S. wit da powa. :>). I am to old and banged up these days to play 3 Gun but the Carbines are great fun on regular IDPA stages and sorta fit the scenarios. I know IDPA sets up PCC as a stand alone Specialty Division but there is little to stop clubs from running a two gun type match with handgun and PCC using the IDPA stages as well. Depends on the stages though. Play safe and enjoy.
All the best in the New Year Matt to you and your family.
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Bob
There are so many informal IDPA shoots I always thought a club could just have a PCC division or PCC match for fun instead of trying to shoehorn it into the rulebook.
But if it makes IDPA more popular I guess it's a good thing.
Our IDPA club incorporates rifle, carbine, and shotgun stages into our club level matches on a regular basis. Variety, its the spice of life. (And I agree that PCC feels like something jammed into the rules for no particular reason other than to be popular.)
Part of the problem is IDPA rules prohibit long guns to be used in IDPA matches other than for props...that includes club matches. It is a handgun sport. That said, clubs are free to have stages outside the IDPA match using long guns. They just are not allowed within the IDPA match.
I think PCC is great for the sport and certainly can be incorporated into regular IDPA stages and frankly INHO PCC is long overdo. That said not everybody agrees with what I think. There was considerable push back by the members when PCC was proposed in November as a distinct Division. I frankly , was surprised but many felt IDPA should remain a handgun sport...period! So, as a result, we get PCC as a Specialty Division along with Optics and BUG. If it proves popular I suspect further changes will eventually find their way onto the rule book.
I have posted a brief proposal for what I think our club will be doing to manage PCC at our small club on the IDPA Canada forum. Feel free to comment on what is posted there and provide suggestions and input.
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Bob
The distinction - of which I am aware - is mechanical and really academic. We are an IDPA club, and put off IDPA matches, but we also do other things. We do what folks enjoy, and no one is complaining. In fact, quite the opposite.
I was one of them, that is, one of those people opposed to the PCC division. I think it is at odds with the first fundamental principle of the sport:
And doesn't fit very well with many other longstanding rules, even within the new rule book. It feels like a add-on for its own sake. I am not opposed to PCC (obviously not, given the above), but it needs to be done properly or simply let the clubs figure out how to enjoy those kinds of firearms in the "IDPA environment" on their own. As we do.
