IDPA Will it get you killed?

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Jarlath said:
Actually this is where you are wrong 100%.

IDPA was formed by Bill Wilson, John Sayle, #### Thomas, Ken Hackathorn, Larry Vickers, and Walt Rauch, in 1996. IDPA was created to redirect the conduct of sporting competitions that use defensive handguns.

IDPA is based on the a single founding principle - the learning and practice of defensive shooting in a SPORTING environment.

These are directly from Walt Rauch himself. It was ALWAYS meant to be a game/sport; yet some people, like yourself, seem to believe otherwise.
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Note the bold text. Defensive shooting has nothing to do with calibre, make, model, action style etc etc. IDPA's founders(or atleast some of them) started IDPA due to the gear race that was created in IPSC. As I mentioned, IDPA as a "sport" is not an issue. The mindset of those who feel it is only a sport and therefore see the need for many of the rules are the concern. IDPA is sliding in the same direction as IPSC.

TDC
 
maurice said:
Did you read that in a magazine,...sounds suspiciously like something I read somewhere....:rolleyes:
If you had an experience with, and doing well in IPSC /IDPA,..I would not discount you,..but you don't sound like you have those experiences. I guess guys like Larry Vickers, Ken Hackathorn,..Todd Jarret and the likes are all wrong,....better tell them to stop practicing bad habits. Or instructing people as they might get them killed.:slap:
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I can back Chopper 1 up. He's legit.

I've recieved training from him first hand, and on multiple occasions. There are others on this board that can vouche as well.
 
TDC said:
Note the bold text. Defensive shooting has nothing to do with calibre, make, model, action style etc etc. IDPA's founders(or atleast some of them) started IDPA due to the gear race that was created in IPSC. As I mentioned, IDPA as a "sport" is not an issue. The mindset of those who feel it is only a sport and therefore see the need for many of the rules are the concern. IDPA is sliding in the same direction as IPSC.

TDC
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Again I quote directly from Walt Rauch.

IDPA is a game; IPSC is a game. Most every shooting sports that fairly and objectively scores the contestants will not and cannot, replicate or even come close to real-life encounters. The scenarios do attempt to simulate some of the problems you might well encounter in everyday life, but IDPA will not provide the training you should have and can get at academies like Thunder Ranch and Gunsite, to name but two such entities.

First off, as it has after been wryly observed, there are no rules in a gun fight. Clint Smith, director of Thunder Ranch, Inc., coined the phrase, "Always cheat! Always win!" ... All sports have rules so that everyone gets a level playing field and all participants can enjoy the contest with reasonable expectations that if they perform well they will be recognized by trophies or cash awards.
I bolded the important parts IMHO.
If one of the creators of the damned organization state that it is a game, not training. You would think he was correct. Yet you keep arguing that IDPA is becoming a game. It always was one.
 
How come no one hacks on PPC for being a game that will get you killed?:confused: It actually was created as Police training, but it also had rules:eek:. Seeing as this is the "Action Shooting Games" section shouldn't we start a new mallninja/gunstorecommando section for these types of discussions?
 
Quick, distract them and ask a .45 vs. 9mm or Weaver vs. Iso or guide rod vs. no guide rod question...should be good for another 1000 pages of nothing...
 
Division- Open/Tactical take a racegun and add a light, bayonet, and laser.
weaver vs iso is simple, neither, EGRET BABY! :dancingbanana:
45 vs 9 is simple, neither, 50 BMG from far away
guide rod no guide god, neither, use a rifle.
You have all been blessed with my wisdom, carry on:D
 
For your reading enjoyment, I quote Bill Wilson in "The Combat Auto"
Under the heading "Self-Defnse Racegun"
"Although the racegun is typically a competition gun, we get requests to build out Accu-Comp system on Commanders for use as a duty gun for police officers. The result is a gun that has a definite decrease in recoil, but is only slightly larger than a Government Model.
Were I to go into a life-threatening situation with only a handgun, the handgun I would choose without reservation is my competition Accu-Comp. It had fired tens of thousands of rounds of full charge ammo without misfiring, it is fiercely accurate, and it is as reliable as a handgun can possibly be made to be.
If this isn't practical, I don't know what it is!"
 
PH Racing said:
For your reading enjoyment, I quote Bill Wilson in "The Combat Auto"
Under the heading "Self-Defnse Racegun"
"Although the racegun is typically a competition gun, we get requests to build out Accu-Comp system on Commanders for use as a duty gun for police officers. The result is a gun that has a definite decrease in recoil, but is only slightly larger than a Government Model.
Were I to go into a life-threatening situation with only a handgun, the handgun I would choose without reservation is my competition Accu-Comp. It had fired tens of thousands of rounds of full charge ammo without misfiring, it is fiercely accurate, and it is as reliable as a handgun can possibly be made to be.
If this isn't practical, I don't know what it is!"
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While my question was a joke, you bring up a very interesting point. So would an open style sight not be a good idea on a duty gun (not concealed).
 
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