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I am sure this has been asked thousands of times, but here goes..
Looking at trying IDPA and was wondering what you guys could recommend for a entry level inexpensive pistol? Just want to try it out first, so don’t want to sink a lot of money into a pistol.
 
How inexpensive? If you're looking to keep it really cheap, go with something like a Girsan MC28. It's a full sized 9mm pistol, you can customize the grips and your mags will fit a CZ SP01. I have one, it's the cheapest pistol I own and I love it! You can find them on here used for as little a $200 at times but even new, they are about $350 I believe. In saying that, bone stock Glocks are most popular.
 
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M&P 9 or a Glock G17 are not overly expensive.

If you want to spend a little more, you can go the CZ SP01 or Shadow 2 etc.

Or go the exact opposite route and get a Norinco.
 
I always recommend getting an M&P 9 range kit. They are good guns, not the greatest but far from the worst, reasonably priced, and the range kit has almost everything you need to shoot IDPA. I wouldn't go any cheaper than an M&P, you start to run into issues like trying to find a holster and extra mags with the less mainstream but super cheap stuff, or horrible triggers like on the SD9VE, or the very similar but slightly different dimensions of the gun and mags on the Norinco NP22, etc.
 
According to the IDPA rules, there is a maximum pistol weight allowed in competition. The empty pistol with the heaviest (empty) magazine inserted cannot weigh more than 43 ounces.
 
Shadow 2 is too heavy. It also isn’t cheap.

The M&P 9 range kit as mentioned above is a great option, because regardless of the gun brand, you’ll need a holster, mag pouches and 3 mags. The kit comes with that.
 
I always recommend getting an M&P 9 range kit. They are good guns, not the greatest but far from the worst, reasonably priced, and the range kit has almost everything you need to shoot IDPA. I wouldn't go any cheaper than an M&P, you start to run into issues like trying to find a holster and extra mags with the less mainstream but super cheap stuff, or horrible triggers like on the SD9VE, or the very similar but slightly different dimensions of the gun and mags on the Norinco NP22, etc.

This - check the EE. Typically lots of used examples for sale.

Availability of parts/mags/holsters etc. will be extremely beneficial.
 
...Looking at trying IDPA and was wondering what you guys could recommend for a entry level inexpensive pistol? Just want to try it out first, ...

You're in Calgary? Stop by one of the shops and handle the vanilla options from the mainstream manufacturers side by side. The ranges give you an opportunity to try shooting a few side by side, even better once you've narrowed it down. The difference in feel can be dramatic depending on your hands and preferences. Pick whatever makes you want to shoot it most (based on feel / look / provenance / whateverfloatsyourboat).

Don't worry about getting the "right" pistol right away. If you're new to handguns, your tastes will probably change after a bit of practical experience. Just don't overpay, and you won't get hosed on resale. You can decide if you want a "game gun" or "duty gun" later, just get shooting!

Hard to go wrong with the M&P kit as others have said. Big difference between Gen1 and Gen2, so feel them up in person if you can. 9mm will be have the least costly ammunition, reloaded or not - If you're the least bit serious, the cost of ammunition will very quickly eclipse the cost of the pistol and accessories.
 
1. Go to a store and ask to handle as many 9 mm as possible. Eliminate the ones your hand doesn’t like.
2. If possible, find a range with rentals and try the remaining candidates from p.1. Eliminate the ones that do not feel right in live fire.
3. Shop around: EE, retail, etc. Keep in mind the cost and availability of extra mags, holsters, possible upgrades, AND how much $$$ it will cost to buy and resell if/when you decide to change the kit. E.g. a good second hand Glock or CZ Shadow SP01 likely won’t cost you much on the flow through, but a brand new marvel of Turkish engineering purchased at full retail could result in a bigger write off.

A couple of caveats: new shooters often choose something with a skinny grip that is easy to hold like a hammer. When the gun cycles, you’ll want more meat to hold on: stronger grip = better recoil management = faster times, easier to stay on target. If you are new to this, find an instructor/mentor, this will help you avoid many pitfalls.

CZ Shadow 1 is pretty forgiving and very reliable. The grips can be swapped to make it fit your hand better. Same goes for CZ 75. Shadow 2 is awesome, but it is too heavy for IDPA.
Glocks are harder to master in my opinion: stock trigger is quite gross out of the box, and if you are not gripping it right, there may be reliability issues (“Glock limp wrist”).
Sig P320 family is a good option.
Sig P226 and variants are good combat/duty arms, but they suck for sport.
M&P tried once at the range, didn’t like it at all.
CZ P10 variants, people like them, I have no personal experience with them yet.
The above is highly subjective, because everyone’s hands are different.

As said above, don’t worry much about the price difference as the ammo cost will soon eclipse the initial $$$. But avoid exotics and stuff with bad resale values.
 
IDPA is the doorway drug of Dynamic Shooting. If you only want to dip toes in I would highly suggest buying someone’s used loadout locally to you or on the EE. I’ve seen some awesome bundles make their way thru the EE. All brands. Most people change after they learn what their likes and dislikes are or just want to upgrade and sell off their existing loadouts to fund new projects. Another question is whether you will choose to use the pistol IN the waistband or Outside the waistband for IDPA. Full Size vs Compact Pistols is another arena of questions. There is no right or wrong answer to your question as the sport is littered with choices and classes. Red Dots are becoming largely popular which adds yet another option to consider.
Decisions, Decisions.
 
Thanks for all the information and suggestions. I will take the advice and try out some pistols at the local indoor ranges / gun shops first before buying.
 
Have fun! I recommend Straight Shooters Indoor Range in the NE (right off Hwy 1 and 36 St) - Smaller shop, but very good to deal with.
 
To the OP there is a good article on the idpacanada.ca website that should answer most of your questions about equipment. Where most folks that run into rule problems is they buy equipment that does not fit the discipline they want to shoot then complain about the rules and why they should change to meet their blaster/holster/belt requirements. For IDPA basic equipment is all you need but you should get a decent understanding of what works and what may not.

One bit of advice do not go cheap on a belt holster (Kydex is what you want). Good ones are around for under $100. IDPA has different requirements than IPSC when it comes to belt, holster and mag holders. IDPA compliant equipent will work in IPSC but IPSC has different belt, holster and mag holders that would not be legal in IDPA.

Take Care

Bob
 
Did you register and go to the Forum? Nobody uses the Events Calendar. The article is in the "Equipment Discussions" section of the forum. Only registered users can reach the Forum. I assume that is the link you think is broken. Register and you will fins the forum links just fine.

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Take Care

Bob
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You might also look at doing Steel Challenge. BTSA and CDTSA in Calgary both run weekly shoots during the season. Holster ( and holster certification) and five magazines. Great bunch of people at both ranges.
 
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