IF a new Grizzly hunt, what gun
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Fear is the proper term, and not intended to be insulting. If you aren't fearful of a bear hurting or killing you, then why would you shoot it?
Good ole bear thread , I am enjoying it seeing the different views and opinions . A G-bear hunt is needed in BC and AB for some of the very stories and facts stated here, my thoughts . What gun you use for hunting is situational of where ,when and how . Just one comment . I did start this and not to go off track but a few of you mentioned the sow/cub danger and odds of an attack . I agree . Now should repeat offenders get the door . I have seen on a couple of occasions how the cubs, not in a attack , but do what mom does . Simply put it's their learning experience . SO after an attack on a person there's now 3 that know how to do it , if it happens again , then what ? .. Anyway didn't mean a side track but lot's of interesting stuff here ....
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You would let it chew on you then? In order to be fearless? Instead of shooting it?
See what happened there? It's the same... no?
Not sure why it is so difficult to agree that every situation is different, the distance of action (whatever that may be) would vary greatly with the circumstance, and that a fellow should conduct himself however he sees fit within whatever parameters are present? No gadgets, no 100 yard mauling's, no bs.
The individual can decide what's best, can't he? What's wrong with that?
R.
I think and I can be wrong, the point here was that if you shoot at a bear 100 yards away and claim self defence, it wouldn’t hold in front of CO’s or judge! If you have a tag and you are in season you can shoot them whatever distance you want!
One thing for sure is if you see a bear at 100 yards and it is coming your way, better get ready! If that bear start running you need to be ready cause one thing that is for sure is it won’t take him long to cover the 100 yard to reach you! But he might(most likely) stop 30-40 yards away and backed off to come back again a bluff you and stop at 30 yards! Is this a reason to shoot it?
See how good your shooting is when a bear is inside 30 yards at 50 kmph.
It’s an animal and if it’s threatening me I’m going to try to kill it. I don’t need a measuring tape. Yeah I’d be scared. But being a hero in this situation could increase the chance of being killed. The real hero makes it home.
How far was it? I don’t know exactly. I was too busy killing it.
It’s an animal and if it’s threatening me I’m going to try to kill it. I don’t need a measuring tape. Yeah I’d be scared. But being a hero in this situation could increase the chance of being killed. The real hero makes it home.
How far was it? I don’t know exactly. I was too busy killing it.
You seem very concerned about a persons ability to shoot an animal the size of a small car at close range where accuracy isn’t needed, if you doubt your ability then …
Shooting a bear at 100 yards is not self defense it is out of fear, period.
westcoaster
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- Central BC
With some of the dialogue this could be a mid-winter bear gun thread....
To the OP, I would probably dust off my Model 70 based custom build in 338wm. However the fact is I could use anything from my 6.5x55 through to my 416 Rigby (and have on bears).
Even Gatehouse's feeble 375 Ruger would work in a pinch or he was telling me after the 375Ruger bullets bounce of the fur he just clubs them into submission with the stock.
Disclaimer: Gatehouse didn't actually say this to me.
To the OP, I would probably dust off my Model 70 based custom build in 338wm. However the fact is I could use anything from my 6.5x55 through to my 416 Rigby (and have on bears).
Even Gatehouse's feeble 375 Ruger would work in a pinch or he was telling me after the 375Ruger bullets bounce of the fur he just clubs them into submission with the stock.
Disclaimer: Gatehouse didn't actually say this to me.
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If I was scared of a bear hurting me, I would shoot it, If I was not scared of a bear hurting me I would not shoot. Simple as that. There are no circumstances that I would be scared enough of a bear hurting me to shoot it at 100 yards.
Of course the individual can make any choice he wants. I may disagree with the choice but it's their decision to make.
Is this a reason to shoot it? The answer is impossible to say... until it happens. That's experience. These things would be a lot shorter if folks actually read what was written. A 100 yards isn't very far when you're elbow deep in a moose, and your rifle is against a tree? You can kind of catch a glimpse of the bear...you don't have time to get ready...and you know it... then what?
A guess would be but a very few that are commenting have actually been in it. Being in bear country... seeing a bear... and having a situation, or two, or three with a bear, are not all the same thing. The step beyond that is having lots and lots of experience having actual situations with bears.
Is this a reason to shoot it? You don't know, until you're in it. That's the best answer. Isn't it?
R.
I shoot more animals then the average joe and yes I would be concerned at my ability to full stop a charging bear at 30 yards knowing I had only one shot. A small car has a lot of places you can shoot and still get run over.
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Total fear comment. As ardent stated they don’t have much range left as they have been killed out of traditional ranges due to fear.
Humbly suggest that there are definitely situations under which you would consider shooting a bear at around 100 yards, you just haven't had them happen, and hopefully never will, and very probably won't. That is the other thing going on here as well, right? Fairly sure you could think of few if you tried. If you had cubs appear behind you, and then your dog coming straight at you at a very high rate of speed? Which means a sow is following, also at a high rate of speed?
This stuff isn't hard. The distance means nothing. It is all situationally dependent. To draw lines and make statements doesn't really mean anything, does it?
R.
Well I had a few bears well inside 100 yards and never had to shoot! Often not even had a rifle with me(inside city limits) and yes we have grizzly and black bear in our back yard! Out there f hunting season I rarely carry a rifle or shot gun unless I’m in an area that doesn’t have people! Bear spray is what I carry and I carry it even when hunting cause deep into a moose I won’t have my rifle ready but I will have my bear spray on me!
