IF a new Grizzly hunt, what gun

I liked the 10mm when living out there, as you never had to put it down. That’s a 10 yard implement on grizz for a few reasons, by the end when no longer hunting them it was all I carried in a place you run into a few grizzlies. It was definitely a last resort item ballistically, but I treated the rifle that way too.

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I liked the 10mm when living out there, as you never had to put it down. That’s a 10 yard implement on grizz for a few reasons, by the end when no longer hunting them it was all I carried in a place you run into a few grizzlies. It was definitely a last resort item ballistically, but I treated the rifle that way too.

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Why was it necessary? Grizzlies are the LOWEST RISK FACTOR.
 
For an actual Bear Gun, IMO any rifle suitable for Elk is suitable for Grizzly and, again IMO, Elk Rifles start with the 6.5x55.
 
Why was it necessary? Grizzlies are the LOWEST RISK FACTOR.

Yep, they were and remain so. :) Just the same as I’ve said a great deal, you don’t eliminate the concern, especially when hanging around gut piles and with meat far more times than average a year is the job description and your house is legally liable for those present.

As for risks, you’re right I have a lot more concern about the aviation, marine, and mountain trekking aspects than the grizzlies and a lot more of my weight carried would be geared to the risks in those aspects of being out there. The only thing that actually killed someone in my territory since its inception in the better half of a century was a fall returning to camp from a goat hunt, lots of water incidents came close. The short river below them they were going home to had an official count of 80 grizz, but nobody who’s spent time out there would rank the grizzlies as the greatest concern.

Said it before, spent many an August packing supplies to the alpine with just spray. I still head out there with spray only in the day job, and don’t feel at any great risk. Same goes for inland mountain jobs. The attack stats bear out that this balance of concern isn’t reckless or unfounded. But at the end of the day, we’re people of the gun. And I like them.

For an actual Bear Gun, IMO any rifle suitable for Elk is suitable for Grizzly and, again IMO, Elk Rifles start with the 6.5x55.

Fully agree, that was my recommendation to clients, pack your Elk rifle.
 
If you aren't confident in hitting a charging bear effectively at 30 yards, how are you going to make a good hit on the same "charging" bear out near 100 yards? I admire your commitment to this line of reasoning, but it's got some big holes in it.

A scoped elk rifle isn’t that useful for close quarter work. Guides PH etc mostly use iron sights and train that way to protect themselves and clients. 30 yards on a full charge bear is a point, shoot and hope scenario where the scope is full of fur if you’re lucky. Big holes maybe but I’ll take multiple holes in the animal starting when you feel your life is in danger.
 
If you aren't confident in hitting a charging bear effectively at 30 yards, how are you going to make a good hit on the same "charging" bear out near 100 yards? I admire your commitment to this line of reasoning, but it's got some big holes in it.

never show your video and the calm you used to pick up brass while shooting a baby bison ... all with open sights too ...
 
If I had to follow up on a wounded bear in thick cover, I'd choose an auto loading rifle with a red dot.

A 30 yard bear charge with a bolt gun in your hands, you may as well be carrying a single shot rifle cause that's all you're going to get off, maybe not even one shot.

Unless you've been charged by a bear at close range its really hard to wrap your head around how fast they can cover that distance.
 
Predators are attracted by game calls I've called in Wolves, Black Bears & Grizzlies...once a pair of Grizzlies that was fun. ;)

No Cougars yet that I was aware of.
 
never be alone when calling bears ...

You know you’re in a situation when you’re calling bears. The gun is off your shoulder, loaded and you’re ready. All the bears I’ve called in come in cautious. Not aggressive. I often call bears alone and picking a good calling spot is more important then having a bunch of extra guns around imo.
 
A serious question... for all of the fellers that are all hung up about the 100 yard thing. How many have seen an aggressive grizzly bear at that distance, on foot, on the trail/in the bush. Not minding it's own business, aggressive.
How many again have seen it close that distance to less than 20 yards before it turned off? How many had time to "get ready"
Are you thinking that these are taking place in wide open fields, where even 100 yards of visibility is possible? Are you always seeing and identifying the bear that far away?

Just asking... because a lot of this isn't lining up with reality. Location, activity, and time of year, dependent, of course.

Or... are you thinking that a 100 yard bear... sitting on its azz eating dandelions is about to get popped? Because it's there?

R.
 
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So what about you answer your own question so we know you have seen it all and lived to tell us?
 
You know you’re in a situation when you’re calling bears. The gun is off your shoulder, loaded and you’re ready. All the bears I’ve called in come in cautious. Not aggressive. I often call bears alone and picking a good calling spot is more important then having a bunch of extra guns around imo.

ah ah i ve met 2 times a crazy full throttle bear when calling ... i learnt to be ready because of that ...
 
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