If concealed carry is allowed starting tomorrow, what pistol do you choose?

As long as you have the body frame to hide the butt of the gun, you can conceal it. That’s why this 12(6) nonsense is total BS!

This ^^^^ the 12 (6) regulation is nonsense.

I carried a Sig p226 in Afghanistan in an IWB holster at 4 o'clock and no one knew I was strapped. As long as you have the right wardrobe and belt, you can carry pretty much anything you can shoot..... If they said we could carry tomorrow, I'd pack my S&W 3913.... no question. Shoots great, super concealable, maybe a bit old school but 100% reliable and accurate.
 
Quarantine has added some weight, could conceal carry a BFR in 45/70, maybe desert eagle in .357?
 
Lol, none, living 55 yrs in Canada, I have never come across a time where I needed to save my life or someone elses. This is Canada, NOT the US. In the US (1997), I had a CCW for NY State, and there I used a Glock 19 when travelling in New York. However, as mentioned, in Canada, I find there is no need to carry, so I wouldn't.

then wtf are you posting here? ;)
 
Probably my Ruger single six. Around these parts I have much more opportunity with small game or 'yotes than two legged predators, prisoners, or non-believers.
 
Smallest single column Glock or a bobbed hammer snubbie 38/357. The comments about learning to live with another lumpy accessory without anyone noticing are very sound. Like getting used to dressing yourself with a shoulder injury, or getting old.
 
Well, I'd carry the same thing that I carried when living in Texas.

On some days, that would be a mid-sized 9mm (Glock 19 or HK P2000 with a Surefire XC1 on it). On other days, a Glock 20. Even in a horrifically hot and humid climate, the right belt and right IWB holster will mean that you are not printing even if all you're wearing over top is a t-shirt.. If a guy is spending a large part of the day driving, a Galco should rig does a good job of keeping the G20 concealed but still very accessible. That is definitely a YMMV proposition though....I can use that rig for a larger than average handgun because I"m a larger than average person. A guy that is 5'6" and 140 pounds would print on both sides of his body if he tried that. For times when things are truly non-permissive, my favorite "just enough" handgun was a Ruger LCR in .327 Federal Magnum, with a speed strip for a reload.

Some folks will tell you that a G17 (let alone a G20 or 21) is too big to carry concealed....but it's 100% dependent on who is concealing it, what level of discomfort they train themselves to accept in the interest of being prepared if bad things happen, and how much money and energy they're willing to invest in figuring out how to effectively conceal a handgun. The right size of gun for you is the one that you'll have on you as long as you're wearing pants. That answer is more personal than a guy's choice in underwear - so for everyone in this thread chirping about how someone else's answer is wrong....my underwear is none of your business. Laugh2

that is very personal for sure. while i never carried conceal i doubt i can use a small handgun just because while im framed a little more than the average joe.

the other question is OWB or IWB?.
 
In my previous posts, #'s 251 & 253, that would be my primary interest.

wilderness carry is not concealed and we are doing that everything we got to cross the border in Alaska. cant wait to see the chest carrier made in canada for our gp100s. cannot wait to have that in Canada as well ...
we may have it before the conceal program ...
 
I carried concealed -- as did and still do almost all of my close friends down there -- for the last 10 years of my 26 year "first long stay" in Mexico...

Interesting post. That puts a new spin on the term "non-permissive environment".

I spend a lot of time down there for work. We only get time venture out when in Queretaro though, which doesn't seem much like the rest of Mexico.
 
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I think that 5 shots in the cylinder is plenty enough to break contact and get out of danger.

But this is entirely hypothetical, when travelling out of the country there is much more to lose by trying to arm ones self. You just have to try to be street smart, and you don't always have to leave the hotel.
 
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Interesting post, I spend a lot of time down there for work. We only get time venture out when in Queretaro though, which doesn't feel much like the rest of Mexico.

Queretaro has a most amazing gun range and gun club. If you missed my posts about it, you can find them in the thread started by Ganderite called "Double Action Snubby" which is just a few pages further down in this same "Pistols and Revolvers" sub-section of the forum.
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1942156-Double-Action-Snubby

Posts in particular with photos of the Queretaro Club would be posts numbers 55, 141, 155, 157 and 160. Post number 212 also features photos of the San Miguel Club, which I just visited a month ago. The two clubs are loosely united and together formed the hub of the "San Miguel-Queretaro Practical Shooting" group. At the time, the T.V. show "Sons of Anarchy" was quite popular and we directly stole the "SAMCRO" from the T.V. Show and made it part of our logo as "SaM-Qro", because we don't need no stinkin' badges. (We did make up patches and hats, though.)
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I am in more-or-less daily contact with both Clubs via Whatts App, and every year I spend the month of February in Salamanca and take the time to visit both Clubs as I can. I believe I am putting on a training clinic at the Queretaro Club in the later part of February, 2021 depending on conditions on the ground at the time. My wife and I will be moving back to Mexico in late 2022 or early 2023 and we will be living just outside the city of Guanajuato, on the road to San Miguel but before La Sauceda. I intend to continue working with both Clubs and the shooting programs. Also, there is a nice range in Salamanca that I was told just last month when I was there is still active. Next year I will make contact with them again, I did some training clinics for that Club in the late 1990's and it is a small, rustic Club but with some well thought-out facilities that have much potential.

On days where I suffer the doldrums, thoughts of getting back to Mexico in retirement with a challenging self-made job of once again rekindling the SaM-Qro Practical shooting group -- which has not grown at all since I left it but we hope to restart it somewhat with my 2021 clinic -- brings a glitter back to my eyes.

Queretaro has grown immensely in the last 20 years. I was first there in the late 1980's, having "met a girl" on a beach trip in 1988 in Puerto Escondido. That relationship fizzled as she was from a well-to-do family and at the time I did not speak Spanish. 15 years later, during almost all of which I had been living and working in Mexico fulltime, me and some of the San Miguel Club guys "reached out" to the Queretaro Club to see if they would like to let us use their amazing facilities in return for which, we'd bring them into the modern age with our Practical Pistol program. In pure Mexican style, they told us they would consider it.

A few weeks later, at a meeting in one of the better Queretaro Pizza restaurants, the Club President (who, amazingly, is President of the Club once again after all these years!) asked me quietly "Do you know Adriana Villareal?"
"Errr," I hesitated, a bit taken aback by the question. "Yes, I do." He nodded, then smiled.
"Well," he said, "she is my sister-in-law. She speaks well of you. We will work with you."

Small world.

I was in Queretaro just over a month ago, but just for a couple of hours at the Costco with some of the San Miguel guys buying steaks and stuff for a B.B.Q., pre-Corona-lockdown. That town has sure grown. I used to be able to just fly around that town in my little Batmobile, back in the '90's when it was still just growing beyond it's infrastructure but still used the same old roads. Now, there are over-passes everywhere and half of Mexico City seems to have migrated to Queretaro. Amazing. I could get lost there now, almost. And, it is somewhat more dangerous there than it used to be.

The Batmobile. In the batcave. It's why you've never seen me and Bruce Wayne together at a party.
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I do like that model, and I think in an environment where a person could obtain a "concealed carry permit", it might be a neat choice. If you print too much and alarm a hand-wringer, you might face some sort of paper-crime complaint or even perhaps loose your permit or have to pay a fine but I doubt they'll just shoot you. In Mexico, an alarmed and undertrained Policeman might just shoot you -- and that's about where it would end. That's too much metal to hide when the stakes are so high and unforgiving.

Northern Skies stated that "I think that 5 shots in the cylinder is plenty enough to break contact and get out of danger." I entirely agree, as I think do most of my friends actually carrying guns around Central Mexico.
 

Smith N frames are very cool - I'd very much like to own one at some time.

I will say that I don't think that the N frames are a viable choice for concealing them effectively. Regardless of how short (or long) the barrel is, what actually matters most in how easy (or hard) a handgun is to conceal is three things:

#1. The overall thickness of the widest part of the firearm. This dictates how far it will "stick out" from your body.

#2. The shape and size of the grip - because this sticks out of your holster, and can very easily print through your clothing as you move.

#3. Weight - the more a handguns weighs, the more thought and money you will need to put into your holster and belt to keep the handgun from pulling your pants down.

As much as I like the N frames, that 8 round cylinder is WIDE - as that picture demonstrates. They also have a big, meaty grip (which is excellent when dealing with stout .357 Magnum loads), and a lot of heavy steel on them to deal with those stout .357 Magnum loads.

An N frame is certainly a workable choice for defensive purposes....but if you compare the challenges of concealing a snub nose N frame with those of concealing a Glock 29 - or even concealing a Glock 20....you need to work a lot hard to conceal a pistol which gets less performance (shorter barrel) out of a smaller number of rounds (8 rounds of .357 versus 10 rounds of 10mm), and significantly complicates the question of reloading.
 
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