if they ban a rifle can we dewat and keep it??

ian_in_vic said:
The last time around there was no compensation (it wasn't just the SPAS-12, they grabbed Feather AT-22's, AT-9's, Steyr AUG's, and those cool little pistols with the wind up 50 round magazines - forget what they were called) You were told you WOULD call the local PD and they would come and pick it up, or you could drop off the firearm at your local gunshop and get a receipt, then the police would pick it up from there. Forget rational and reasonable. I was told by one of the guys doing the "chasing down of some loose ends" (a guy who had bought a $2600 Steyr AUG and wasn't jumping to be first in line to give it away) that they would not accept a stripped receiver, he figured that they would just get a court order for the rest of the gun, and then if it wasn't turned over have the guy jailed for contempt of court, for as long as it took. My view of law enforcement (for which I take a lot of criticism and even get infractions here) changed permanently that day, up until then the vast majority of my friends were LEO's, no longer. Confiscation IS real and it IS wrong, always was, always will be.
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Those scenarios are unfortunate. Did any of these individuals sue the government for damages/compensation? If the take was large enough, I could see a nation-wide class-action lawsuit against the government for damages resulting from their negligence. Could you imagine the amont of press that would get nation wide? If the government didn't want people to own a certain type of firearm, they shouldn't permitted it in the first place (issued a registration certificate). I believe that is why Paul Martin proposed a handgun buy-back program. It wouldn't be in the governments best interests to create a large pool of victims who become party to a nation-wide class-action lawsuit - succesful or not. That is why the Lieberals put so much pressure on the CPC to ban firearms - it wouldn't reflect badly on them.
 
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lucky07 said:
if ever they come get one of mine ill give it to them no issues.... but it'll be barrel bent in half and squished receiver... at which point it will cease to be a firearm and then they will have come out for nothing lol.
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That's the path I would take too, at least then none of the firearms would end up in anyone's "private collection"
 
And better have several hundred thousand dollars available as well, since even if you win the first round, they will apeal it all the way to the SCC, and they have lots of lawyers on salary, paid for by you with your tax dollars.
 
I got a better idea. How about they get nothing, zip, nada? Then they are more than welcome to file an appeal at the court offices of JMB at the .45 acp desk.
 
i have a real hard time allowing my privately owned property to be stolen from me. Be it from lowlife street thieves or government thieves.
 
I REALLY think that this talk about confiscation is over reacting; what worked in Australia, and the UK WILL NOT work here.

Canadian gun owners are, and have always been, RESPONSIBLE gun owners. Our firearms controls work.

Still... keep the letters flowing.

Some form of ban will come around eventually. My opinion; they will prohibit the sale or transfer of firearms and let us die of old age.
 
You know all this talk about dissarming the public is starting to sound more and more like my home country, a place that if you wanted bread or eggs you had to wait in line for hours or if your son or mother needed shoes you had to look in your ration book to see if you had a coupon to see if you could get them. Don't even dare to talk bad about the goverment cause they will put you away for life thats is ofcourse if they don't stand you infront of a ten men holding ak-47. Still wondering what country that is ...... Communist Cuba
 
Does anyone remember any media coverage on spas 12 collections?

I hear alot of info on here, and I want to know if it was in the media at all?

If anyone here had any footage whatsoever of the cops collecting their guns back in the day without a reciept, it would be my first priority to post the video on youtube under "canadian right violations" :D
 
If they ban our guns, I'll be the first to stage protests on the highways (slow convoy), or picket busy subway stations or something like that to REALLY disrupt and annoy the common citizenry.
 
contact148 said:
try and sue

you have NO property rights in canada
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Its not about property rights - its about negligence and damages resulting from that negligence. They apparantly banned all the dangerous guns long ago and grandfathered owners of those dangerous guns. In addition, there are sufficient mechanisms to prevent dangerous guns from entering Canada or being sold to civilians. I relied on those controls. I'll sue them for allowing me to buy it in the first place. I want all my money back plus interest.

paulz said:
And better have several hundred thousand dollars available as well, since even if you win the first round, they will apeal it all the way to the SCC, and they have lots of lawyers on salary, paid for by you with your tax dollars.
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Thats the beauty of a nation-wide class-action lawsuit. With as few as 10,000 victims, past and present, and an average contribution of say, $100, that amounts to $1,000,000. You might even be able find some law firm to take the case on a contigency fee basis.
 
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There was legal action taken, by the owner of a Steyr AUG, that is why those rifles ended up being 'tagged on to' a prohib category after the fact. His $2600 rifle probably cost him in excess of $20,000 to keep. I'm pretty sure the ones that were collected were never given back.
 
Dad had an Intratec TEC-22 in his collection. When they came calling, they did tell him that he had the option to have it dewatted instead of destroyed. If he'd had the time, he would have tried to have it dewatted, but then it would have still been a useless paperweight. It's too bad he didn't have the money to start or join any class action lawsuits in those days, but he had to support a family of six on a postal worker's salary.

Oh yeah - and there were definitely NO receipts given out for this abuse of citizens rights!
 
fnrob said:
I think you're referring to the Calico M950 pistol, as the Calicos were named in the confiscations.
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That's them, there was a 22 lr too. Also confiscated. On a side note, I was the only person to surrender a high cap mag for destruction in Surrey, I insisted on a receipt, and the firearms officer (who was a great guy, and believed in enforcing the rules rather than making them up as he went along) wrote one up for me - I still have it. It makes a great reminder.
 
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