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If you could only have one rifle/scope...
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BigUglyMan
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Because a mid-range scope (in terms of power) will work at long range. A long range scope is an arsehole of a thing at real close range.
I had a chance at a charging baboon last summer (I'm not making this up). A pair of them ran in from my right and when I turned to try for a shot (at about 15 yards when they pulled up) I couldn't see a damned thing through the 3-9x scope on the rifle. But at 1.5x I would have had a chance.
BUM - I think you missed my post after the question - I meant mid-range quality, not magnification. For example, there are quite a few Leupold 6x fans - the Schmidt & Bender 6x42 is also available, and even with a 1" tube. Lots of VX-III 2.5-8x36 fans; why not a Schmidt & Bender 2.5-10x40 Summit or a Swarovski Z3 3-9x36?
Zeiss, S&B, and Swarovski all make fantastic scopes in (depending on manufacturer): 1.5-6x42, 1.7-10x42, 3-10x42, 3-12x42 etc.
Those scopes have the smaller objective lens that we in North America prefer. Price wasn't a factor in the initial question, so I am curious why so many folks skip these exceptionally high quality optics.
This is especially curious when their dream rifle includes expensive stocks, gunsmithing, barrels, triggers and other parts. You want to put together a 1st class rifle, but top it off with middling optics.
gunrunner8
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BUM - I think you missed my post after the question - I meant mid-range quality, not magnification. For example, there are quite a few Leupold 6x fans - the Schmidt & Bender 6x42 is also available, and even with a 1" tube. Lots of VX-III 2.5-8x36 fans; why not a Schmidt & Bender 2.5-10x40 Summit or a Swarovski Z3 3-9x36?
Zeiss, S&B, and Swarovski all make fantastic scopes in (depending on manufacturer): 1.5-6x42, 1.7-10x42, 3-10x42, 3-12x42 etc.
Those scopes have the smaller objective lens that we in North America prefer. Price wasn't a factor in the initial question, so I am curious why so many folks skip these exceptionally high quality optics.
This is especially curious when their dream rifle includes expensive stocks, gunsmithing, barrels, triggers and other parts. You want to put together a 1st class rifle, but top it off with middling optics.
No offence 1899 but did it ever dawn on you that some people would never get caught with them even when they were for free b/c they are the German scopes? I am a little annoyed every time somebody keeps boasting about uberZeiss for instance and putting the Weaver, Bushnell and Leupold in undermensh category....
Did the evil Baboons git ya?!
Lol!
But seriously, what happened?
They are a nasty looking beast!
Some of you guys have no imagination. You can only have one, doesn't have to be one you already have...
I'd probably send many thousand of $$ to Martini and have him build me something like this in .300WM, with custom mounts and an S&B 3-12x42...
or maybe a Satterlee...
I'd probably send many thousand of $$ to Martini and have him build me something like this in .300WM, with custom mounts and an S&B 3-12x42...
or maybe a Satterlee...
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Speaking for myself only, I've never peered through a VX3 right dark or first light in the morning and thought "this is terrible, I need more scope". It's just a scope system I know my way around and have confidence in. I've never played with the high end European stuff so I couldn't really go on a limb and say I'd run one for the rest of my life (even though this whole thread is mearly childish fantasy)
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- Dah Soo,ON
Some of you guys have no imagination. You can only have one, doesn't have to be one you already have...
I'd probably send many thousand of $$ to Martini and have him build me something like this in .300WM, with custom mounts and an S&B 3-12x42...
Brad that thing is hideous...you've went down a notch in my books. If you want a clunky old mauser I think my buddy has a few gustavs in his basement...I'll spray paint a nice faux stainless finish on it for you...I'll even rocker gaurd the stock
Speaking for myself only, I've never peered through a VX3 right dark or first light in the morning and thought "this is terrible, I need more scope". It's just a scope system I know my way around and have confidence in. I've never played with the high end European stuff so I couldn't really go on a limb and say I'd run one for the rest of my life (even though this whole thread is mearly childish fantasy)
Perhaps that is the issue. I have done exactly what you said and compared the Leupy with a Swarovski - side by side. The difference is amazing. Even in daylight the higher end scopes offer incredible clarity and resolution.
I'm not disrespecting peoples' choices; I just found it interesting that folks will fantasize about all these nice rifles and not go for the best in optics. And if one fellow says he doesn't want to buy a product because it is German, then that is ok by me - I don't want to buy Chinese products.
Perhaps you could do something for me - your regs say:
According to the National Research Council:
http://www.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/services/hia/sunrise-sunset.html
Sunrise in London, Ontario will be at 7:20am tomorrow
In Thunder Bay it is at 8:08am.
Take a look at the edge of a cutblock from 100-200 yards at 1/2 hour before sunrise and tell me what you think. If you have a good set of binos then look with those, and then compare to your scope. In BC the regs say 1 hour, so the difference is even more profound.
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- Dah Soo,ON
Shall do. I'm in my hunting trailer right now deer hunting . My official sunrise is 7:40am and we have some nasty snow squalls to deal with so it should be a fun little test of any scopes might.
PS- if you want to mail me a Swarovski to try feel free
. My official sunrise is 7:40am and we have some nasty snow squalls to deal with so it should be a fun little test of any scopes might.PS- if you want to mail me a Swarovski to try feel free
As an aiming device I want my scopes to work as such. They are not binoculars or cameras. That said I could use my 6X Leupolds WELL past legal shooting light.
Thanks.
I refer to it as Frankenstein 06
Snob...
Nice 22 ya got, BTW...Or, some of us know what we like and have it...
Besides, even though it wasn't part of the OP's intent, if I had the money to drop on a Saterlee or S&B... I wouldn't. That kinda moola would be a big chunk of a Alaskan Grizzly hunt...
quackquackbang
CGN Regular
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- Newfoundland
My 7mm-08!
Or, some of us know what we like and have it...
Besides, even though it wasn't part of the OP's intent, if I had the money to drop on a Saterlee or S&B... I wouldn't. That kinda moola would be a big chunk of a Alaskan Grizzly hunt...
What I meant was, if I was to only own one rifle my whole life, it wouldn't be an off the shelf Tikka or Rem. Any custom rifle is already a well thought out acquisition.
Besides, if I had all the money back I've spent on dozens of firearms and optics, I could get the Satterlee AND do an Alaskan hunt!!
Brad that thing is hideous...you've went down a notch in my books. If you want a clunky old mauser I think my buddy has a few gustavs in his basement...I'll spray paint a nice faux stainless finish on it for you...I'll even rocker gaurd the stock
I think that's the first time I've seen a Martini rifle referred to as a 'clunker'...
(agree on the stock though, I'd go McMillan or custom walnut instead of the MPI...)
Everyones opinion of "the best" is diffrent though, Euro or N. American. Most people will use say a Bushnell 6500 (for example) and love it and from then on belive it is the best because its what suits there needs the best.
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