If you could pick ONLY ONE milsurp chambering, what would it be??

Curious. Why do people always praise the 7,62x54r as being "all powerful". It not the cartridge, it's the steel core bullet that blows holes in plate steel.
 
grelmar said:
It's very close...

Contenders:
.303 because, well... .303 - no need to say more.
54R because... It'll kick the crap out of anything it hits, and there's nothing quite like the smell of spent surplus 54R - just ask my wife, she knows when I've "gone Russian" at the range by the smell of my clothes.

But at the moment (and my mind may change over time, I'm sure...), the overall winner is:

7.5x55 Swiss. All the knockdown you need, and the K31 is simply the most amazing mid-century surplus bolt action in existence, on very, very many levels.
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I agree with the 7.5 x 55 swiss...The GP11 ammo is really accurate in my K31 and this fall I might try it on moose,if I get the darn draw..

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7.62x39 because it is cheap, plentiful, low recoil, and good for plinking up to 200m, which is all I use milsurp for anyways.
 
Absolute agreement
smellie said:
.303

Why?

My Lee-Metford likes it.

So does my Sparky.

And the SMLE Mark I***.

And all the other Lee-Enfields.

And all the Rosses.

And even the P-'14s.

Once you have perfection, who needs something longer, skinnier, higher pressure, with a fragile rim and the same performance?

BTW by actual test, a Mark VII Ball bullet takes about 50 yards from the muzzle to stabilize fully. Once it is stabilized, it will handle 52 planks in the penetration test.

Good enough, I suppose.

Been waiting 105 years (since 1910) for something actually better to come along. Haven't see it so far.
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BeaverMeat said:
From that list the 8mm has the most knockdown power when your chucking 200gr bullets. Heavy bullet equals less deflection and more down range power. Using the traditional wide groove 9.5:1 twist with long and heavy high BC bullets is a deadly recipe for accuracy.
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Agreed. The 8x57 is a great powerful round. 200gr at approx 2550- 2650fts is hard to beat from that list. 30-06 would be my second choice.
 
BeaverMeat said:
Curious. Why do people always praise the 7,62x54r as being "all powerful". It not the cartridge, it's the steel core bullet that blows holes in plate steel.
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Because there's an entire generation now that grew up on poodle shooters and 54R is the first cheap milsurp they've ever handled that fires a real cartridge.
 
I know you originally stated the 88 from the Tiger II tank, but then you just throw out "88mm FTW". Well what 88mm then?

88×571R mm (8.8 cm Flak 36/KwK 36[Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger Ausf.E])
88×855R mm (8.8 cm Flak 41)
88×822R mm (8.8 cm Pak 43/KwK 43[Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf. B/Nashorn/Elefant/Jagdpanther/and the towed Pak43])
 
.308 Win or more accurately 7.62 x 51.
It's like the plain Brady sister, just left off to the side mostly.
Does pretty much what is req'd of it with little fanfare.
Folks often use it to compare; "This 303 br loading is as potent as a 308" or "30-06 is better, more powerful than a 308!"
It seems like the plain old, boring 308 can just do what is asked of it. 303 br is great; love it, but the 'O' ring trick? Not perfection in a cartridge / weapon design IMO
And I've only one .308 folks; three .303 br, several 8 x 57's, a 30-06 and two 7.65 x 53's; all milsurp and all have been claimed to be "as good or better than a .308"
308's are not glamorous, are quite boring, and...just work well, with little hoopla IMO
 
The oring trick is a reloading trick. The same generous chamber dimensions that make the oring an advantage would have been a huge advantage in extremely filthy field conditions. That extra room for mud and crud saved a lot of men.
 
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