Mumbles Marble Mouth
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Were talking about Canada Post here..... Who shipped and delivered severed body parts to random addresses across the country.
If you don't ship using Canada Post, who do you use?
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bearkilr
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And any other courier company would've done the same. It's up to you to know what's legal or not to send, not them. I can only imagine how many drugs get shipped across the country each day.
The thing about all this is that it's up to us to read the fine print, they have their ass covered. There are a lot of items they won't cover or have a max limit on what they'll cover, UPS and Fedex are no different. Just because you can buy insurance doesn't mean it's covered, since the onus is on the sender.
That's true, bearkilr.
The manager at the Main Street outlet told me that even if you had paid for the insurance you would not have been able to collect on a claim for loss. Said you might get a refund on the cost of the insurance, but no more.
Ted
The manager at the Main Street outlet told me that even if you had paid for the insurance you would not have been able to collect on a claim for loss. Said you might get a refund on the cost of the insurance, but no more.
Ted
Mount Sweetness
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Southern Ontario
The insurance is for Loss, not damage. Package it properly.
Yes, you can insure firearms shipped with Canada Post.
Yes, you can insure firearms shipped with Canada Post.
Yes you can. However, you never had coverage after April of 2017 until now, even though you paid for it. See the photo of the CP document published in in post #57 above.
The last sentence of the highlighted text above the list of items reads, "They are shipped at the customer's risk; no Liability Coverage for loss or damage is available for these items.", and "firearms" is the fifth item down the list.
Of course one needs to package things properly. Have never shipped a parcel that arrived with damaged goods. Cannot say the same for stuff that came this way.
Regardless, we are good to go with Canada Post again!
Ted
The last sentence of the highlighted text above the list of items reads, "They are shipped at the customer's risk; no Liability Coverage for loss or damage is available for these items.", and "firearms" is the fifth item down the list.
Of course one needs to package things properly. Have never shipped a parcel that arrived with damaged goods. Cannot say the same for stuff that came this way.
Regardless, we are good to go with Canada Post again!
Ted
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Now my guy today says again he has never seen that doc and there is no mention of this in the full 2018 revision package which he says has all of the changes
He asked Ted if you can please provide the number on that doc so he can dig further here
He also said if they take your insurance money today legally and he would if I was shipping a firearm today and wanted insurance they will have to see it through for both including damage if required even if they should not have taken it for damage per this doc which he knows nothing about
That makes more sense to me. How can they just walk away and return just what you paid. I think in court they would lose that big time
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It was both all along. I have never had one lost but did have 4 damaged and got some form of payment for all four eventually
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Mount Sweetness
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Southern Ontario
Technically firearms shipped via CP must be trigger locked, in a unidentifiable box, and signature required upon delivery.
Hi Ted
Please understand I am not questioning you but am questioning what you have been told since it effects me big time.
Is it possible you can get the number off this document. I have a canada post contact here that would like to have it to check further
We are getting two different stories.
First my post office has never heard of it and it is business as usual for insurance on firearms
They gave me a number to call in Ontario which they say is the main office of support for canada post and I did
14 minutes waiting to get the call answered and another 15 on hold while the agent tried to find anything to this effect that was implemented in either april 2017 or jan 2018 nothing. I asked if we could talk to a supervisor he came on the line also could not find anything and somehow my call got disconnected
Called back another 14 minutes waiting second agent told her the story again back on hold 12 minutes, nothing she could find so says she is transferring me to the individual that deals with CP liabiality insurance. Again nothing, we tried every combination of what we thought that number could be from 3649, 3849 etc etc again nothing plus nothing he had ever heard of to this effect or in the full 2018 january changes
He gave his direct contact information if I can obtain what that number is since he would love to see the doc.He suspects it may have been a draft copy that was never implemented but is not sure. He checked to see if it could be linked to the yukon and again nothing
He would also like to know the outlet up north you are dealing with for a possible direct call .He stated there has never been a time in 2017 when insurance was dropped on firearm shipments or altered from what is on line today. Like I said to him why would you it is a cash cow we pay a fortune to insure them and you fight like hell to pay out a few a year. We both laughed at that
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Mount Sweetness
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Southern Ontario
This entire thread is a non issue, pretend that it never existed. A lot of misinformation here.
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Give it a rest..... Ted is a very respected member of our community and posted true and documented information...... it
does indeed look like it may be a non issue in the end, but we can all learn from his experience and the doc he took the time to post and keep ourselves informed...
You tell us not to trust what someone posts on the internet then ask us to PM you for the “real skinny”..... ummmm ya....
Mount Sweetness
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This thread will continue to confuse members for the next three years.
All the best.
All the best.
i will put my grain of salt here. Ted tried to explain what was told to him. the manager that told him that is well known in the shooting community here and i do not see why some are questioning what was given.
if some want to believe there are still insured go for it and if something is happening to your said rifles do not come here to cry.
just two grains of salt for the night.
if some want to believe there are still insured go for it and if something is happening to your said rifles do not come here to cry.
just two grains of salt for the night.
WFT are you talking about. Key words what does well known in the local shooting community have to do with this, he knows what he was given no more
I spoke to a manager at canada post in Ontario that looks after their liability insurance do you not think they should know of this change and he does't
Having worked for the federal government for over 25 years it would not be the first time something was issued to a province or territory and not applicable to the rest of the country.
I have been paid four claims for firearm damage and know of two others that were also paid for damage so it is/was real
This is not an attack on Ted and I have every right to question it when my postal office has no record of this change nor does the central group I phoned and I continue to pay insurance weekly on firearms being told they are insured for both loss and damage
It is important that we get to the bottom of this and find out which one of us has been given bad information. I am quite sure Ted would not be upset if we find out they are still insured for damage also
Right now no one here really knows one way or the other
Your salts don't count here since from whitehorse you may fall under the same document as Ted does one central cannot find a copy of because I cannot give them the number. Doesn't mean this is applicable for the rest of canada because right now it sure isn't in my province or if it is no one knows including the group in Ontario
If Ted can supply that number in the picture that would help big time. It is important enough to canada post that he gave me his direct contact information to send it on or would like to talk to Ted's post office directly which is not something they normally do
I will say it again this is NOT AN ATTACK on Ted
Cheers
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